October 05, 2016

Premier Wall blasts Trudeau’s betrayal over “unilateral” carbon price

Andrew LawtonRebel Commentator

“Prime Minister Trudeau: Keep your word.” That was the ultimatum Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall gave Trudeau this week after the Prime Minister’s announcement that he’d move forward with a national carbon price if the provinces didn’t take action themselves before 2018.

The negative economic impact of carbon pricing is well known—as is the fact that they don’t generally lead to anything but increased government revenue. But more importantly, Wall noted, the plan is a rejection of a past Trudeau promise.

Wall posted on his Facebook page a clip from the Globe and Mail debate during last year’s federal election campaign in which Trudeau called a top-down carbon pricing plan “nonsensical.”

He also wrote that the meeting of environment ministers earlier in the week was “not worth the CO2 emissions it took for environment ministers to get there,” following Trudeau’s threat in the House of Commons that the tax would be imposed unilaterally.

Nova Scotia Premier Stephen McNeil has also come out against Trudeau’s plans, saying that his province “will not be implementing a carbon tax.”

Trudeau has gotten cocky thinking that every premier in the country has as little respect for taxpayers as Cap-and-Trade Kathleen Wynne does in Ontario. Not so, Wall and McNeil showed us.

Provinces have premiers to make decisions that have a direct impact on the province—Trudeau needs to respect that, and, at the very least, listen to his own counsel from a year ago.

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commented 2016-10-06 09:17:28 -0400
@ Glenn Carducci commented 4 hours ago
Wynne wants a carbon tax on natural gas.
She also intends to put a provincial tax on that tax.
commented 2016-10-06 04:49:49 -0400
Wynne wants a carbon tax on natural gas. The least expensive, cleanest, safest fuel going. Even hydro generation cannot compare. Those wind turbines are short lived. The stress placed on them have not been reported properly and we have already suffered structure failures. It is only a matter of time before the lid comes off on the problems. Wynne has imposed the ban on FOI concerning hydro. That was for the benefit of the Liberal Party. I have faith in the stupidity of Ontario. She will reign for another 6 years with one more majority. By the end of that term, Ontario will be reduced to a third world country environment and most of those residing in Ontario will be very upset when they are told about it.
commented 2016-10-06 04:43:30 -0400
If there ever was a reason to divide this country Justin Trudeau is it. The west should start a separation movement. That in turn would fuel Quebec. As for Ontarians, someone who cared could explain to them what is happening. If it does not involve a frivolous cause, it is beyond the attention span of your typical Ontario tax payer.
commented 2016-10-06 03:10:30 -0400
The other conservative premiers need to speak out against the stupid carbon tax. Why the hell is the Manitoba premier not doing anything?
commented 2016-10-06 02:42:52 -0400
Trudeau played the people of Canada just to get elected. He wanted to be and has become the Tyrant Dictator. He was after all or was a drama teacher before he became PM of Canada. He acts well that much he has proven. What i wonder is who is truly running Canada. Trudeau does the photo part taking pics, selfies and traveling around the world when he should be in the government chambers working for Canadians. But he doesnt know what to do, he was a drama teacher. He was not a strong politician. Canadians we did not do justice to Canada or Canadians by putting the Liberals in power just cause we no longer liked Conservatives. But Harper was a well knowledgeable politician and an economist he did Canada good and Trudeau is ruining the good the Conservatives did.
commented 2016-10-06 02:32:30 -0400
Andrew you think a carbon tax is good? We are against it because it means more taxes and will do nothing for the environment. What part of that don’t you get?
commented 2016-10-06 00:14:27 -0400
Sorry William, we need him here till the socialists are a just distant memory.
commented 2016-10-05 23:43:12 -0400
I so wish Brad Wall was The PM
commented 2016-10-05 23:14:39 -0400
Brad Wall & now the Nova Scotia Premier seem to be the only two who have the guts to tell off Trudeau, who’s acting like a dictator along with Catherine McKenna, who want to bully everybody….my way or the highway.
By now every last Canadian should be sick & tired of hearing those words:
carbon emissions….carbon tax…..cap & trade…..global warming…..climate change…..floods, snow storms, hurricanes, typhoons, tornados, earthquakes, acne on your face, plugged up toilet, ants in your pants all happening because men are breathing out CO2. They can impose every tax they can think up till they’re blue in the face & it won’t make one iota of difference. The only thing it will accomplish is make the gov’t richer so they can spend more & squeeze out more money from the taxpayer’s wallet. This is all insane & I wish the climate scientists who disagree with this crappy farce would all get together & march to Trudeau’s office & demand this stupidity stop right now!!!!
commented 2016-10-05 21:37:11 -0400
Don’t worry about it Mark – Trolls commit intellectual suicide a thousand times a day but it won’t change the fact people will reject carbon taxing and provinces most economically penalized by it will refuse to implement and take the feds to court for a constitutional spanking if they move unilaterally in ultra vires.
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commented 2016-10-05 20:42:07 -0400
At Sean Penson:
“So good you had to double down?”
I’d take those odds against.
commented 2016-10-05 20:36:45 -0400
“Build the Wall!”
He is the most grounded and common-sense Premier going.
Not surprisingly, he’s from Saskatchewan. There’s something to be said for living close to the land, like the folks in that province. They ain’t spoiled, and they don’t take things for granted.
commented 2016-10-05 18:56:34 -0400
This is actually a very serious subject and I stand by Premier Wall and applaud his ability to speak out and give that POS Trudeau an earful.
However the POS needs to hang from highest tree and all his Ministers lined up and told they are next, because none of his two faced ministers have the guts to stand against this asshole and I am betting that there are quite a few that disagree with this despot, but are afraid of losing their jobs and all the benefits and perks that go with it – the two faced pricks.
commented 2016-10-05 18:50:59 -0400
I’d like to address the reoccurring phenomena of disinfo provocateurs dismissing probability and objective evidence as “conspiracy theory”.

This is a non sequitur used by disinformers to sell their narrative. It is important to understand there are “narratives” and then there is truth. Narratives attempt to color truth or obscure it because the truth is damaging to the narratives being offered for public consumption. We have many narratives competing for popular acceptance as a stand in for reality in a general public who cannot know the whole truth of subjects and issues unfamiliar to them. Creating narratives is a manipulative process to create consensus or alternate realities – they are routinely utilizes by corporate interests, political interests and governments to gain advantage.

The main weapon against false narratives and to find the truth beneath them is to tink independently and reason. The first alarm bel you are being lied to is when a narrative supported by probabilities and objective evidence is dismissed as a “conspiracy theory” – right away this is a logical fllacy because facts and history prove that conspiracy exists and it existsts in such normal abundance that we have conspiracy laws, conspiracy-busting police units and government investigators as wel as the historic record that shows us that most of the pivitol points in economic and political history were a matter of “conspiracy”.

A good rule of thumb in researching a narrative to find the truth beneath it is to attack it with two primary axioms = 1) “who benefits from disguising the truth” and 2) follow the money”.

In this case “Globalism” as a corporate-political dogma is a fact, so is its antithesis Nationalism – divining its benefit or detriment is a matter of objective evidence and weighing probabilities using these 2 main motivators. ((% of the time you will find narratives don not either benefit you or enhance your income – someone else is benefiting from you buying a narrative and not seeking the truth.
commented 2016-10-05 17:40:51 -0400
The great climate betrayal.
At the end of this spring’s first ministers conference; Did Trudeau not ask the premiers to come back in the fall and come together to develop strategies on how they will reduce carbon emissions? Of course he did.
He learned from Katherine a few days ago, while attending an environment conference with the provincial energy ministers that this wasn’t going as planned.
So Trudeau, decided to stand up in the H of C and declare a forced Carbon Tax at the very moment Katie interrupted the environment minister’s meeting to pass along Trudeau’s H of C comments.
How gutless. To say nothing of how stupid an idea like federal carbon tax is.
Ask for the numbers? There arent any.
All they can tell you is, Canada is committed to Paris conference agreement.
The only figures they can provide us with are the federally imposed Carbon taxes. 10.00 to 50.00 per tonne from 2018 – 2022. Where the h did they come up with these Carbon tax figures?
These guys are really stupid.
commented 2016-10-05 17:32:40 -0400
The liberal administration just said today in the red deer paper that the tax will not affect 87% of the population in Canada… Then it goes on to say that BC and Alberta have instituted the tax already and basically between the rest of the western provinces that makes up the 13% of who will be affected the most…
It is easy to see that reading between the lines he is giving a break to Ontario and Quebec until 2021
And thus promoting his next tenure.
commented 2016-10-05 17:25:14 -0400
- – yes and Sean Penson/Andrew Stevenson should be running public policy – but we all know that isn’t going to happen because imbeciles have a hard time just walking and chewing gum at the same time.
commented 2016-10-05 17:22:41 -0400
I believe Andy is some low level civil service stooge who trolls this site in his abundant idle time with plausible disinfo. I’m not bragging but, I have put together a few factums on constitutional challenges to jurisdictional overstep. It erks me when cut-and-paste trolls make a pretense of subject knowledge or dismiss open collusion as “conspiracy theory” – pretty much the modern version of the village idiot interpreting royal decree.
commented 2016-10-05 16:55:23 -0400
Wall should be fired, jailed & the provincial government being replaced with a Commission of Government that is fully responsible to Ottawa, and does as Ottawa demands. Rebels should be dealt with justly
commented 2016-10-05 16:55:23 -0400
Wall should be fired, jailed & the provincial government being replaced with a Commission of Government that is fully responsible to Ottawa, and does as Ottawa demands. Rebels should be dealt with justly
commented 2016-10-05 15:55:33 -0400
Every time I see that smug little face of junior’s I’d like to twist his pointy nose off. He should be hung for treason.
commented 2016-10-05 15:49:43 -0400
@andrew Stephenson:
“Actually, if it’s revenue neutral as BC has done, then those of us who choose to be more efficient with our lives will actually see a tax cut "
Only an idiot can believe in revenue neutral. What are they going to do, just give it back to those that paid it? Check out BC’s PST and tell me how their carbon tax grab is revenue neutral in any way?
commented 2016-10-05 15:45:26 -0400
The people of Alberta and Saskatchewan are not alone. The Newfs produce oil too. Aise the buy.
commented 2016-10-05 15:42:02 -0400
“Calamity Marcy commented 2 hours ago
Only Andrew Stephenson would rejoice at the chance to pay thousands of dollars more in taxes and mock others who don’t. Brain damage… "

Actually, if it’s revenue neutral as BC has done, then those of us who choose to be more efficient with our lives will actually see a tax cut ….