June 15, 2015

Question of the Day: Is eating meat bad for the environment?

Emily PrattRebel Correspondent

It’s World Meat Free Day! This is a world-wide campaign urging people to put down the burger and pick up a salad for the sake of the environment.

The Rebel.media's Emily Pratt hit the streets to see if you think eating meat is bad for the environment.

(PS: Here's Ezra Levant's take on World Meat Free Day.)

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commented 2015-06-16 13:01:40 -0400
JASON Hi, if we are on the same wave length as to the subject, it is a “sore subject” to me also, all i did was relate a personal experience of mine regarding the subject.
It required no remark,it was just as i said a personal experience within the bounds of the subject at hand.
There was no need for that person to accuse me of being a vile , low life and turn everything around i said to the point i was the one who was the problem and i caused it all myself.
I won’t carry on about it, but i have 0 respect for that person and it is something i will not forget, being attacked like that.
commented 2015-06-16 09:35:47 -0400
AL: I think I know who you mean, and I’ll just say this. That was probably a sore subject for the person in question. Which is why I steered clear of the whole thing once it blew up the way it did.

But that being said, I applaud your choice. Kudos, my commentary colleague.
commented 2015-06-16 07:55:25 -0400
PRINCE , i wasn’t saying in general people tend to attack you ( me) for being vegetarian,it is of course very accepted these days,,,those days are gone ,my remark was aimed at one person here.
I once related something very personal in one of the post on here, that person turned my words around and made me out to be nothing like i am and into a person i abhor
An example of this person logic would be. my post would be turned around and in the end i would be going out killing animals for food.
commented 2015-06-15 23:44:55 -0400
Al Rose — we’ve got nothing against people who choose to be vegetarians. To each their own, and if it works for you, then great! Where we object is, as you said, the political/activist bandwagon. (I’m sure you got that idea already from most of the posts.) Personally, this body doesn’t care much for red meat (although it tastes great); I eat chicken and fish instead, supplemented with a few veggies and lots of various fruit. It works for me…
commented 2015-06-15 22:55:29 -0400
The UN has also stated it wants to reduce the population to under 1 Billion People, so they are advocating a cull of 5.5 Billion Humans … Do you really want to listen to them?
commented 2015-06-15 21:57:00 -0400
KEVIN those A&W ads make me laugh too, now everyone is getting on the bandwagon.
I was researching milk and hormones in milk re. PSA articles years ago.
It seems Monsanto tried to get bovine growth hormones into Canada as they do in US milk, there was some discussion that this growth hormone ( in milk )contributed to prostrate cancer,.
As i understand it and as it was told by the people involved, they ( Monsanto) tried to bribe health officials to get it passed in Canada , but it never was.
So as i was saying, i got a laugh at the A&W and Loblaws commercials spouting hormone and antibiotic free.
But it seem hormones are used in beef cattle,but not milk cattle

This link is ti the article about Monsanto and bribery allegation
commented 2015-06-15 21:51:52 -0400
Since methane is one of the contributors to greenhouse gases, and cow & pig farts are 2 of the highest sources of methane, we NEED to eat these delicious little bastards! They’re trying to kill mother Earth!
commented 2015-06-15 21:21:57 -0400
I guess i might as well throw my 2 cents in even though some people tend to attack you when you do, well one person.
I gave up meat in 1976, all meat, no animals flesh at all, it is a personal choice, i am not an environmentalist, or fanatic.
My reason is i don’t believe in the killing of animals for meat, ( my choice) i do not preach to anyone.
Slaughter houses are evil and painful places for animal, they suffer, and by the millions, the worse is this halal meat, they slit the throat of the animals alive and bleed it to death.
I just don’t want any animal to suffer for me, that might seem silly to some but we all live our lives by our values and what moves us deep within to do what we do and live as we do.

It is more accepted these days but back then ( 1976) people looked at you like you were wacko if you said you were a vegetarian.
Believe it or not i once told someone when they asked why i do not eat meat , the reason i do not eat meat, which is because i do not believe in the killing of animals for food, well then he said a carrot is alive and you eat that,
Back in those days because it was less accepted, it took me a long time to get over the thought i was damaging my system by giving up meat, but that eventually passed.
I read all the books back then , this subject was around in the 70s about the land it takes to grow the grain to feed the cattle,and methane gas, so it isn’t new
If you live long enough things come up over and over

In summer i grow my own vegetables, at supper time i go out to the greenhouse and pick my fresh veggies,
Is it healthier?, hard to say i don’t do it for health benefits ,if there are some then i guess i experience them , i am 71 do not take any medication, EKG s are good , PSA was 2 last time checked, i smoked for 56 years and gave it up 6 years ago because i thought it was time, even though i always enjoys my ciggies

There is a reason i stopped eating meat, but i i won’t elaborate on that other than i do not agree with the killing of animals for food
Well after saying that i suppose i should elaborate. I had a beautiful female German Shepard, she was a stray dog i took in, over time i came to love that dog, we were so close, and it is because of her i gave up meat, ( thats the short version)

So i guess i celebrate meatless day, but every day of the year, in the end people are not going to give up their meat, if they do it will be at a time when they are moved within themselves to do so.
commented 2015-06-15 21:11:10 -0400
Dammit, I didn’t know it was bad for the environment. Anybody know where I can unload a half beef from a free range cattle farmer,self employed butcher? Never mind, I’ll think of something
commented 2015-06-15 20:50:38 -0400
Anyone who says eating beef is bad for the environment is criminally insane in my books.
commented 2015-06-15 20:31:25 -0400
Bill Elder quipped, “Why eatin’ beef comes as natural as crackin’ a hippy ‘cross the mouth with a backhand”

Thanks for the laugh, Bill!
commented 2015-06-15 20:18:25 -0400
Let’s break this down:
Myth 1: Meatless diets will help reduce water and land consumption for the planet.
Fact 1: It takes almost as much water and more land to grow enough produce to sustain our current population.

Myth 2: Meatless diets reduce carbon emissions.
Fact 2: Many fruits & vegetables have carbon releasing minerals that cause all animal types including humans to fart relentlessly. I.e: Figs, prunes, raisins, tomatoes, cabbage, cucumber, potatoes… The list goes on.

Myth 3: Meatless diets will make people thinner.
Fact 3: Many bread and fruit products have base sugars in the yeast that fuels the fatty cells in the body.

Myth 4: Meatless diets give you more energy during the day
Fact 4: While there is some truth to this, for the most part it’s over consumption that causes a severe drop in energy. And for the amount of food we’d have to eat just to make up for the loss of meat, we’d have minimal energy to do our daily tasks.

As I’ve gone through the years of my life, I’ve discovered that OMNIVORES are the ones most likely to live a long and productive life.
commented 2015-06-15 20:06:23 -0400
This discussion is far from new……CAIN AND ABEL by Rudyard Kipling

Cain and Abel were brothers born.
(Koop-la! Come along, cows!)
One raised cattle and one raised corn.
(Koop-la! Come along! Co-hoe!)

And Cain he farmed by the river-side,
So he did not care how much it dried.

For he banked, and he sluiced, and he ditched and he led
(And the Corn don’t care for the Horn) —
A-half Euphrates out of her bed
To water his dam’ Corn!

But Abel herded out on the plains
Where you have to go by the dams and rains.

It happened, after a three-year drought,
The wells, and the springs, and the dams gave out.

The Herd-bulls came to Cain’s new house
(They wanted water so! — )
With the hot red Sun between their brows,
Sayin’ “Give us water for our pore cows!”
But Cain he told ’em — “No!”

The Cows they came to Cain’s big house
With the cold white Moon between their brows,
Sayin’ “Give some water to us pore cows!”
But Cain he told ’em — “No?”

The li’l Calves came to Cain’s fine house
With the Evenin’ Star between their brows,
Sayin’ “‘Give us water an’ we’ll be cows!”
But Cain he told ’em — “No!”

The Herd-bulls led ‘em back again,
An’ Abel went an’ said to Cain: -
“Oh, sell me water, my brother dear,
Or there will be no beef this year.”
And Cain he answered -

“Then draw your hatches, my brother true,
An’ let a little water through.”
But Cain he answered: — "No!

“My dams are tight an’ my ditches are sound,
An’ not a drop goes through or round
Till she’s done her duty by the Corn.

“I will not sell, an’ I will not draw,
An’ if you breach, I’ll have the Law,
As sure as you are born!”

Then Abel took his best bull-goad,
An’ holed a dyke on the Eden road.

He opened her up with foot an’ hand,
An’ let Euphrates loose on the land.

He spilled Euphrates out on the plain,
So’s all his cattle could drink again.

Then Cain he saw what Abel done —
But, in those days, there was no Gun!

So he made him a club of a hickory-limb,
An’ halted Abel an’ said to him: —

“I did not sell an’ I did not draw,
An’ now you’ve breached I’ll have the Law.

“You ride abroad in your hat and spurs,
Hell-hoofin’ over my cucumbers!

“You pray to the Lord to send you luck
An’ you loose your steers in my garden-truck:

“An’ now you’re bust, as you ought to be,
You can keep on prayin’ but not to me!”

Then Abel saw it meant the life;
But, in those days, there was no Knife:

So he up with his big bull-goad instead,
But — Cain hit first and dropped him dead!

The Herd-bulls ran when they smelt the blood,
An’ horned an’ pawed in that Red Mud.
The Calves they bawled, and the Steers they milled,
Because it was the First Man Killed; -
An’ the whole Herd broke for the Land of Nod,
An’ Cain was left to be judged by God!

But, seein’ all he had had to bear,
I never could call the Judgment fair!
commented 2015-06-15 19:33:48 -0400
Why eatin’ beef comes as natural as crackin’ a hippy ‘cross the mouth with a backhand. Just like eatin’ steak it feels so good , so natural like.
commented 2015-06-15 19:29:34 -0400
No eating meat is good for the environment! Anyway, it doesn’t matter because a medium rare thick cut prime rib steak is the best, only second to bacon. Everything is lesser to bacon! Ahhhhh! Bacon!
commented 2015-06-15 19:26:16 -0400
There is so much misinformation out there about agricultural. Your are so right Glenn, land that sustaines grazing animals is not farmable for the most part. Don’t get me started on this misnomer of organically grown beef either( that A&W commercial drives me nuts) ALL BEEF IS DRUG AND STERIOD FREE or they couldn’t be sold commercially if that was not the case anyone who is allergic to antibiotics would go into aniphilactic shock while enjoying their steak speaking of which upon the anticipation of meat free day I took out some steaks for supper
commented 2015-06-15 19:03:44 -0400
Not just beans, Vlad — you’d better watch it when it comes to raisins or prunes, and don’t forget dates and figs! All this methane gas that we “exhale” due to fibrous foods is just as bad…!
commented 2015-06-15 19:02:55 -0400
It is naive to think that the grasslands that cattle feed on would ever be cultivated to grow lettuce for salads….and lettuce cannot be stored like hay. What is more the cowboys were right about the “sod busters” …plowing the prairies caused the greatest ecological disaster in North America in the twentieth century….the “dust bowl”.

There is nothing…absolutely nothing that is "natural " about agriculture…the whole idea is intervention by man to force nature into yielding a result no matter what the method…and if you cannot make a living at it …..it is not “sustainable”.

The most dangerous religious flake cult in the Western World is not radical Islam….it is the New Agers who teach that evil Penisiods from Mars came here to gang rape Gaia the man hating Earth Goddess of the Venusians . They have done more to undermine our civilization than the Islamists have even if you multiplied 911 a thousandfold. And they are a much greater threat to our freedom.
commented 2015-06-15 19:02:21 -0400
Having salmon and chicken today… does that count against burgers?
commented 2015-06-15 18:43:08 -0400
Beans make me fart and that’s way way worse for the environment. Feed me cattle and hogs. Deer and rabbit are acceptable too.