December 23, 2018

Red Deer United Church’s “inclusive” Nativity scene excludes white faces

David MenziesMission Specialist

CBC ran a story about a display in Calgary that’s being described as a “different take” on the nativity scene. If you drop by the Red Deer Lake United Church you’ll come across an “inclusive, cross-cultural display that includes an Indigenous wise man.”


Reverend Nick Coates told CBC he was expecting congregants and others to push back, but everyone has loved the updated and re-imagined version of Christ’s birth.

Of course they do! This is the United Church after all, whose unity seems to be driven by the pursuit of wackiness as you’ll see when I show you the “wise” men and updated gifts.

Shockingly the Baby Jesus is still depicted as a baby.

And don’t fret about cultural appropriation outrage! Reverend Coates notes, “By contemporizing some of the traditional imagery and by decolonizing some of the characters, the hope is to create a scene that sparks curiosity, engagement and wonder... I hope this nativity can cause people to stop, engage and wonder what does Christmas really mean.”

Call me an ignorant crank, but I thought Christmas was about the birth of Christ?

The Reverend Coates further notes that this nativity-scene makes for honky-free territory given that all of the characters are depicted as brown-skinned.

Now, that’s diversity!

If you happen upon this display, don’t call the cops. This is NOT a nativity scene that’s been defaced by hooligans, but rather, one that’s been made culturally diverse in accordance with guidelines trumpeted by the Church of the Liberal Party of Canada!

Merry Christmas one and all, or whatever it is that the United Church is calling “Christmas” these days.

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commented 2018-12-24 14:31:39 -0500
Good on you Dirk we gotta stop
supporting these establishments that are caving into these socialist idiots and allowing our traditions to be quashed!! Up yours you socialist/Islamic rats.
commented 2018-12-24 12:20:56 -0500
Arianna Fontana commented 15 hours ago
In 2012 Red Deer was like, "Oh wow, it’s like living in Canada again’’ – after living in Calgary. Three years later – didn’t want to shop at Superstore anymore
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Feel slightly outnumbered as the only Canadian in the store between all those non integrated immigrants?
commented 2018-12-24 12:11:32 -0500
Sheldon Eisler commented 22 hours ago
Not kidding Sheldon, took a picture and won’t set foot in it again.
commented 2018-12-24 09:24:54 -0500
Liza, I think that praying is all that we have left, as long as we have people like Justin Trudeau around. It was him whom I was thinking about when I posted the link in my last comment.
commented 2018-12-24 09:11:54 -0500
I’m remembering Keith and praying like I have never prayed before – for all of us, and all people oppressed by totalitarian maniacs and their apologists. God save us and protect us from this evil.
commented 2018-12-24 09:08:08 -0500
I detect a lot of argumentative bad feelings on this page, probably from imbibing Christmas spirit. Perhaps we should all remember who’s Birthday we are supposed to be celebrating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HtVYr9aKRM
commented 2018-12-24 09:08:07 -0500
I guess it is the next step after all. Merry Christmas Rebel’s, it may be the last one.
The Islamic Party Of Ontario
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD-ZQzkj9HY

They are twisting our laws and constitution to pull the wool over the eyes of stump stupid Canadians.

Andrew S. go to hell. As far as I am concerned you are as much the enemy as any Islamist. Rot.
commented 2018-12-24 02:00:12 -0500
ANDREW STEPHENSON commented 8 hours ago
Luckily, as Canadians we embrace this diversity of opinion and freedom to interpret religious texts as we want. Truly an exhibition of Canadian values.

YEAH SURE THEN EXPLAIN M-103. You are not very bright.
commented 2018-12-24 01:59:14 -0500
Andrew Stephenson it was Canada who went after Ezra for those cartoons. You forget that?? LIAR!
commented 2018-12-24 01:57:52 -0500
Andrew Stephenson he was not Black. And i guess we can portray slaves in the US as white then? Or does your comment only apply in certain ways? Also i guess we can portray trans people as not trans then RIGHT??
commented 2018-12-24 01:08:39 -0500
Mr-babies-Are-Paraistes, why do you want to believe and promulgate lies? Don’t you ever get tired of being wrong? From Wikipedia:

Jews (Hebrew: יְהוּדִים ISO 259-3 Yehudim, Israeli pronunciation [jehuˈdim]) or Jewish people are an ethnoreligious group and a nation, originating from the Israelites and Hebrews of historical Israel and Judah. Jewish ethnicity, nationhood, and religion are strongly interrelated, as Judaism is the traditional faith of the Jewish people, while its observance varies from strict observance to complete nonobservance.

In future I would suggest engaging your brain before putting the old pie hole in gear.
commented 2018-12-24 01:04:48 -0500
ANDREW STEPHENSON commented 8 hours ago
Luckily, as Canadians we embrace this diversity of opinion and freedom to interpret religious texts as we want. Truly an exhibition of Canadian values.

Oh, and if including different races in a Nativity scene pisses God off, then it’s likely the all-white re-enactments in the past pissed Him/Her/It off just as much. Jesus was probably an Arab, based simply on geography. God could be sitting up there, getting madder and madder, whilst his supposed disciples do nothing but spread malevolence and religious hatred.
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I see Mr-Babies-Are-Parasites is holding forth on his theological expertise again. What he knows about the subject would fit into a thimble with lots of room left over.
commented 2018-12-24 00:35:05 -0500
Maurice Potvin: Listen to this on the Magi, you’ll enjoy it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13WSR8pFhPU

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah Ezra and TheRebel staff and to all the rebellers out there who make TheRebel a wonderful source of information, opinions and humour.

May God bless you and your loved ones and keep you safe.
commented 2018-12-24 00:26:12 -0500
Actually, it could probably be said that Jesus was only half Jewish; from Mary’s side of the family.
The other half….only God knows.
commented 2018-12-24 00:05:02 -0500
Peter Babich commented 6 hours ago
Andrew Stephenson, you fucking retard. The holy Family was Jewish. I can’t understand how anyone can be as ignorant as you "

Judaism is a religion. Arab is a race. The middle eastern Jews had (have, their descendents still live in Iraq) a LOT of Arab blood in them. It was only later that they moved into Europe and picked up Caucasian traits. The matrilineal nature of Jewish status means you could be the product of generations of intermarriage and still be considered a Jew.

Jesus’ portrayal as white is because that’s how the northern European populations interpreted the story as told at the time, and those literary traditions became the modern Biblical interpretations still in use today. It has no historical, or even theological, merit whatsoever.
commented 2018-12-23 23:06:44 -0500
Ron Voss…Tks for the UK story. here is a new 4 min. Child Marriage Story in Germany.
I have never heard a short story that had me sad, then happy, then so sad again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzqMkkco9y8
commented 2018-12-23 20:55:23 -0500
In 2012 Red Deer was like, "Oh wow, it’s like living in Canada again’’ – after living in Calgary. Three years later – didn’t want to shop at Superstore anymore. Yikes! Active RC churches bringing them in, plus CARE. It was nice while it lasted.
commented 2018-12-23 19:38:01 -0500
How to stop Muslim Grooming Gangs:

Muslims raping non-Muslims need to be classifies as a RELIGIOUS HATE CRIME! Our politicians need to get busy on this matter.

Double or triple the punishment for the RELIGIOUS HATE CRIME FACTOR!
commented 2018-12-23 19:18:08 -0500
As I sit at my keyboard I am watching the full moon of the winter solstace rise. From this night on there will be less darkness and more light.

Merry Christmas….Happy Hanukkah

My favourite popular Christmas carol is actually a Boxing Day (Saint Steven’s Day) carol. The tradition was that on Saint Steven’s Day you were to commit a random act of kindness…and be as generous as you could afford to be to the first poor wretch that you encountered…

GOOD KING WENCESLAS LOOKED OUT….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQVUMG6LZGM
commented 2018-12-23 18:48:35 -0500
It’s Christmas. It’s time to celebrate the birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. God knows the human heart. I’ll leave that judgement up to him. I’m not saying that the proper interpretation and application of doctrine isn’t important, even critical, to salvation, but I don’t believe the staging of the nativity scene with natives is in any way disrespectful. After all the traditional depiction isn’t accurate either. First of all, the manger scene is mentioned only in the Gospel of Luke and the Magi are mentioned only in the Gospel of Matthew. The Magi were never at the manger. All we know about when the Magi visited is that Jesus was under two years old and that they brought thee gifts, gold, frankincense and myrrh. We don’t know how many Magi there where except that there was more than one, but I’m pretty sure Joseph and Mary didn’t look around the manger and say “Wow! This is a great place! Let’s stay here.” I’m pretty sure they were living in a house by that time. But i’m don’t mind the traditional depiction of the nativity scene with the Magi present at all. It’s simply a reminder of the birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and I love it. I think this is a non-issue and a non-story. Sorry, David.
commented 2018-12-23 18:43:09 -0500
JAMIE MACMASTER commented 4 hours ago
Protestant church ministries are becoming dumping grounds for unemployed social workers.
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BINGO Jamie…you hit the nail on the head ….In the 1980s I was a candidate for ministry in the United Church….I saw the writing on the wall…I got out…

CRAIG JAMES….Christ himself celebrated Hanukkah…John 10:22 “and he was in Jerusalem for the feast of the dedication (Hanukkah in Hebrew) and it was winter”

The real story goes something like this….The king of Judea , Herod, was a quisling and puppet of the occupying Romans…a group of “cohens” of the Maccabean movement (which had overthrown the previous Alexandrian (Greek) occupation) decided that Herod just had to go…so they plotted to breed potential heirs to the throne…they sought out prominent families with lineage back to King David and arranged marriages to produce this result. The Romans at this time were conducting a census for the tribute tax and part of the requirement was return to your city of paternal ancestry. Herod got wind of the plot and decreed the assasination of all of his newborn male relatives…so the couple fled to Alexandria in Egypt…where the child would be safe …and able to benefit from the best education then available in all the world . When he returned his cousin “John the Baptist” was first in line to replace Herod and no focus of attention was on him until after John was executed….the ruling ultra orthodox Pharasee (separatist) sect dominated the Sanhedrin Council and deemed Jesus to be far too broad minded for their liking….so they staged a “deep state” downfall….things haven’t changed all that much.
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commented 2018-12-23 18:25:21 -0500
Craig James. I stand corrected. I thought Andrew was the dumbest fuck on this site.
commented 2018-12-23 17:06:49 -0500
Andrew Stephenson, you fucking retard. The holy Family was Jewish. I can’t understand how anyone can be as ignorant as you
commented 2018-12-23 16:51:23 -0500
Luckily, as Canadians we embrace this diversity of opinion and freedom to interpret religious texts as we want. Truly an exhibition of Canadian values.

Oh, and if including different races in a Nativity scene pisses God off, then it’s likely the all-white re-enactments in the past pissed Him/Her/It off just as much. Jesus was probably an Arab, based simply on geography. God could be sitting up there, getting madder and madder, whilst his supposed disciples do nothing but spread malevolence and religious hatred.
commented 2018-12-23 16:30:17 -0500
Thank you Jill ward for your 1st paragraph and your last sentence. Everyone should read your comment and everyone to tell their nieghbours and friends to take time out to wake up and listen, observe and react to this Canadian and world problems that the general world public is unaware of. Google ,THE REBEL, INFOWARS, FAITH GOLDY, EUPOPEINFOWARS, NEWSWARS, HISTORY REVIEWED, DAVID DUKE and many other sites for WE THE PEOPLE to educate ourselves about your world that is crumbling away quickly.
This is my 1st comment since joining the Rebel a week ago.
commented 2018-12-23 16:06:10 -0500
Glad you said it David. Total screwballs.
This is one of the 35000 so called denominations of Christianity that makes up their own nutcase stories and then calls Catholicism fake news.
Proves they know squat what and who Jesus was, the historical facts and the REASON FOR CHRISTMAS.
If you have any extra horse manure, bring it to this pathetic excuse of a liberal religion building and dump it. At least it will smell real and hopefully they’ll understand what manure is all about.