February 16, 2018

Remember the true meaning of 2nd Amendment after mass shootings

Sebastian GorkaRebel Contributor


In the wake of the tragic school shooting in Parkland, Florida, we must remember that there are three factions in society who misuse guns:

Criminals, terrorists, and the mentally unstable.

Sadly, those who wish to commit acts of evil will do so using any means necessary, as we've seen before in countless terrorists attacks that employ bombs, poisons, and even automobiles to wreak destruction.

We must remember, even after such tragedies, that America is unique and special.

Our 2nd Amendment has a very specific purpose: and it's not to ensure the hunting of dovetails nor even meant to afford us protection from common criminals. Rather, it is intended as a safeguard against tyranny.

Let's not forget that the Nazi regime disarmed the Jewish people and others deemed enemies of the state for a reason.

Guns are your last protection against those who wish to take your rights away from you.

When stripped of the right to defend oneself, we are no longer citizens, but rather, subjects and prisoners.

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commented 2018-02-19 22:36:59 -0500
I question why someone who is 18 qualifies to purchase a gun, let alone a high powered gun like this kid used.
I’m not advocating gun control, but age should be a factor in legally purchasing guns.
commented 2018-02-19 15:02:01 -0500
2nd Amendment: Why America will remain free. Lack of why Canada is headed for dictatorship under Jihadi Justin!
commented 2018-02-19 05:23:12 -0500
No Ms. Stephenson.. In reality one becomes a “criminal” as the deed is done… In mind and fact.. The technical and social nicety of the courts thereafter attesting to that being so is just social attestation and hopefully recognition of reality… The interim is too often posturing by “clever” lawyers scoring legal fees…
commented 2018-02-19 01:54:30 -0500
Andrew Stephenson if the FBI had done their job maybe he would not be able to purchase a gun.
commented 2018-02-18 15:57:47 -0500
Al Peterson commented 2018-02-18 14:45:19 -0500

The master of logical fallacy is back. This time with the fallacy of equivocation. Good job and a fine example of it for the class."

How’s it “equivocation”? When does one actually become a “criminal”? Under the justice system, one is not a criminal until convicted; prior to that one is at most a suspect. Therefore, it is not “equivocation” to point out that Peter’s terminology is incorrect. This is especially true in very permissive states like Florida where you essentially need a felony conviction to have gun rights revoked.

In general, if your only defense is some vague accusation of “equivocation”, you’re probably missing the point. It’s the semantic equivalent of rejecting an argument for a typo.

Al Peterson commented 2018-02-18 14:58:08 -0500

“Which is, of course, impossible. At best you can only prove a person has not had run ins with heals or mental problems in the past. You can make no proof of that for the future. So our Canadian intrusions and unwarranted restrictions cannot predict the future either.

Our system, however, would have acknowledged the huge red flags surrounding this fellow, and probably stopped him from purchasing a weapon. Of course it’s never going to be 100%, but the American system has some pretty glaring flaws as illustrated here, and in previous shootings of this nature – where someone who would never have earned gun owning privileges in a privilege-based system, but doesn’t have enough red flags to have them taken away under a right-to-own based system – slips through the cracks.
commented 2018-02-18 15:12:17 -0500
There is a theory that the globalists in the ’secret government ’ are using mind control tactics on the mentally unstable. These individuals are controlled into committing school shootings. Then tbe the left call for more gun control and the doing away of the 2nd amendment. It is all part of the plan to bring down the USA. This WILL NOT HAPPEN. For GOD IS STILL AND ALWAYS WILL BE IN CONTROL!!
commented 2018-02-18 14:58:08 -0500
…means you have to prove a potential owner is safe…
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Which is, of course, impossible. At best you can only prove a person has not had run ins with heals or mental problems in the past. You can make no proof of that for the future. So our Canadian intrusions and unwarranted restrictions cannot predict the future either.
commented 2018-02-18 14:45:19 -0500
ANDREW STEPHENSON commented 2018-02-17 01:41:30 -0500
Peter Netterville Netterville commented 2018-02-16 17:56:34 -0500
More laws banning guns will not stop the ones who use the guns for criminal purposes.

Why? Because criminals will ignore the laws. That is why they are called criminals. "

The shooter wasn’t a criminal, and he purchased the gun legally. For the intent of crime, sure, but without even basic background checks, there’s no way to catch it even when it’s blatantly obvious.
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The master of logical fallacy is back. This time with the fallacy of equivocation. Good job and a fine example of it for the class.
commented 2018-02-17 23:33:21 -0500
How about power to the People…..
commented 2018-02-17 18:40:41 -0500
Common Sense commented 2018-02-17 06:14:22 -0500
Andrew, his intent was known in advance, it was reported to the FBI and they admit they failed to process it properly."

Dysfunction among regulators is a common theme among these shooters. . Do you thus feel that better gun control (or at least, effective use of the mechanisms that presently exist) would have helped prevent this scenario?

“Andy Neimers commented 2018-02-17 02:25:35 -0500
Ms. Stephenson… Once again you “skated” over that one a tad too quickly… “The shooter” became a criminal when he formed “criminal intent”… And once he crossed the school’s property line, armed as he was, he did indeed become “a criminal”… And he would have been a criminal even if his AR-15 had jammed in trying to fire the first round… "

Legally, you have to be tried and convicted of something before you can be a confirmed criminal. Even today he’s merely a suspect awaiting trial. This is one of those rare situations where intent does matter, but again, not yet tried or convicted of anything… Further, gun shops don’t know intent at time of purchase, and in Florida, there’s very little requirement to even look – the problem with guns-as-rights is that you have to prove someone is unsafe before depriving them of rights, which nobody actually does. Switching to guns-as-privilege, as Canada does, means you have to prove a potential owner is safe – which works better, but that’s also the gun control the lobbyists/ NRA etc hate so much.
commented 2018-02-17 15:21:51 -0500
Given the highest levels of the FBI and Justice Department aided by the intelligence community attempted a preemptive coup to prevent Trump from winning and then to destroy his presidency.
This is precisely why the founding fathers feared tyranny in any form and put safeguards into the Constitution and The Amendments to repel such tyrannical advances.
Gun control is about people control. This is why the leftist progressive movement is trying and will always try to get rid of the Second Amendment.
As we have seen ,we have no such safeguards in Canada and we will see further erosion of our freedoms .
To the leftists,humans are expendible for the greater cause.. They have no real interest in lives lost.Just the expansion of their ultimate goal of dominance.
Screw them and screw their agenda. Hold on to your gun rights at all costs because no else in the world can there be freedom ,including this sad state of affairs that the Marxist Liberals are subjecting on Canada.
commented 2018-02-17 15:17:34 -0500
If The Clown Prince Trudeau had his way all Canadians would not be allowed to own a firearm.

You see, it’s easier for The Clown Prince Trudeau and his band of merry thieves to take over Canada this way and invoke the insane Lieberal doctrine.

#trudeaumustgo
commented 2018-02-17 08:49:56 -0500
I agree with Mr. Gorka !00%.
commented 2018-02-17 06:14:22 -0500
Andrew, his intent was known in advance, it was reported to the FBI and they admit they failed to process it properly.
commented 2018-02-17 02:25:35 -0500
Ms. Stephenson… Once again you “skated” over that one a tad too quickly… “The shooter” became a criminal when he formed “criminal intent”… And once he crossed the school’s property line, armed as he was, he did indeed become “a criminal”… And he would have been a criminal even if his AR-15 had jammed in trying to fire the first round…
commented 2018-02-17 02:05:27 -0500
That’s right Nathan W… that was the argument “at one point”… But in 2008 the Supreme Court of the USA, in the case of District of Columba vs. Heller, clarified that the right to bear arms in the US did NOT require participation in a militia; i.e. it is a personal right guaranteed by the Constitution…
commented 2018-02-17 01:41:30 -0500
Peter Netterville Netterville commented 2018-02-16 17:56:34 -0500
More laws banning guns will not stop the ones who use the guns for criminal purposes.

Why? Because criminals will ignore the laws. That is why they are called criminals. "

The shooter wasn’t a criminal, and he purchased the gun legally. For the intent of crime, sure, but without even basic background checks, there’s no way to catch it even when it’s blatantly obvious.
commented 2018-02-16 22:54:37 -0500
Please consider to specifically indicate the foreign nationality of people who speak of “our 2nd Amendment”.

In clarifying the oft-debated “true meaning of the 2nd Amendment” of the constitution of our southern neighbour, it should be additionally recalled that at one point the “well-regulated” part of the amendment was interpreted as organized local militias having standard issue guns and ammunition in order for local militias to be able to more effectively and efficiently uphold the anti-tyranny constitutional order.
commented 2018-02-16 21:27:21 -0500
Sort out protocols not being followed; agencies not communicating with one another and revamping mental health laws which are preventing very sick people from getting the help that they need.

Disarming law abiding citizens is not based on logic or an understanding of what the framers of the Constitution were safeguarding the country with.
commented 2018-02-16 20:24:38 -0500
I know there are people who think that could never happen in the U.S. being a nation governed by laws however I have seen such drastic changes within the last few years that I never would have imagined could happen so quickly. Especially here in Canada but also in many Western democracies I have never seen such a grab of the microphone while the liberals try to squeeze out any dissenting voice to their radical policies. I never expected to see reckless and slanderous accusations of decent people being labelled Nazis for daring to criticize the open border policies the left has tried to force upon us. I have claims of violence being used against those who the left has deliberately infiltrated and placed violent protestors to stir up that very violence for which they accuse conservatives. I have seen a deafening silence by the mainstream media while violent antifa protestors have tried to shut down our sacred free speech rights and when finally pressed CNN justifying these violent communist flag waving thugs. I was completely stunned when you revealed that CIA director had voted for a communist and Obama appointed him anyhow. I have to confess I found that so unbelievable I had to verify for myself. I have also seen a report of Obama setting up funding for Alinksy styled radical training funding and the left AWOL. So sorry if I don’t agree with the lefts hype to rush to deal with the gun problems they are facing. I do believe there are some solutions which could improve but I certainly don’t trust the ones who have been calling us Nazis and if they truly think we are Nazis they should not be wanting to lay down their weapons so easily either. (Which kind of proves they don’t really and exposes their claims as nothing more than a propaganda tool).
commented 2018-02-16 20:03:51 -0500
If American citizens surrender their guns and the right to bear arms, the entire free world will collapse
commented 2018-02-16 19:38:09 -0500
The founding fathers of the United States created systems to prevent America from becoming the kind of tyranny that was the norm the world over. The left loves tyranny. They loved Venezuela before it degenerated into what it has become. They are heaping praise on the North Korean dictatorship. Is it any wonder that they hate the founding fathers & America itself?
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commented 2018-02-16 18:22:33 -0500
It appears that the top echelons of the FBI ,Justice Department ,CIA and NSA participated in a plot to prevent Trump from winning the election and thereafter sabotaging the transition and Presidency itself
With this type of activity , they need The Second Amendment more than ever.
commented 2018-02-16 17:56:34 -0500
More laws banning guns will not stop the ones who use the guns for criminal purposes.

Why? Because criminals will ignore the laws. That is why they are called criminals.

The anti-gun hystericals cannot understand that.

The hystericals calling for more gun control laws are idiots … pure and simply minded idiots.