January 25, 2017

Results on electoral reform are in: Canadians don’t want what Liberals want

Brian LilleyArchive

The Liberals have been adamant for a long time now that they want a new way brought in for Canadians to elect MPs but once again, Canadians are sending Justin Trudeau and his Liberals a simple message. They aren’t interested.

The results of that ridiculously vague survey at MyDemocracy.ca are in and they’re pretty clear.

While there are some things that bother them about how Parliament runs, of the three hundred and thirty-eight thousand people that filled out the survey, most are happy with the system as is.

A full 67 percent say they are somewhat or very satisfied with the way democracy works in Canada. That includes 50 percent that say somewhat satisfied and 17 percent that are very satisfied.

By comparison just 9 percent are very unsatisfied.

These numbers hold across the country as well, and there is no one region begging for change.

A funny side note; the group most likely to say they want to change the system are those that describe themselves as not interested in politics at all. So people not interested, likely who don’t vote, are the people most dissatisfied with the system.

And while the survey shows there is some support for aspects of other systems, like calling for more collaborative government - parties needing to work together and negotiate their positions, the survey was designed in a way that allowed participants to express all kinds of contradictory viewpoints.

To those that say this report shows that Canadians want proportional representation, I give you figure 3.2.1 which shows 53 percent of Canadians agreeing with this statement:

“It should always be clear which party is accountable for decisions made by government, even if this means that decisions are only made by one party.”

By comparison just 31 percent disagree with that idea and 16% are neutral.

What this survey really shows, my doubts about the validity of the entire exercise as a representative sample aside, is Canadians are generally satisfied with the system but would like to see politicians working together more. That is hardly a shock.

They want MPs to represent their local constituents rather than the party or the MP’s desire - 72 percent say MPs should do what their constituents want.

The survey also shows Canadians rejecting mandatory voting by a wide margin and rejecting lowering the voting age with two thirds saying no.

There is a small majority that support online voting but only if the security of the vote can be guaranteed, which of course at this point, it cannot.

Now you think with all the hoopla around this that the Trudeau Liberals would be touting the results loudly. I mean they spent days talking about this website and online survey in the House of Commons, they sent 13 million postcards to homes across the country.

And now, they are somewhat silent because they didn’t get the answer they were looking for.

So far Trudeau and his Liberals have held town halls across the country, heard from a Commons committee and surveyed hundreds of thousands of Canadians on electoral reform and what have they discovered?

Canadians don’t want what the Liberals want.

There is a good chance electoral reform will die here. Or Trudeau could push on.

Remember the other part of his promise. Not only that the 2015 election would be the last election under ‘first past the post’ but also that they had a time line for bringing in legislative changes.

We are now into the 15th month of the Trudeau era, they have three months left to meet their own commitment.

Let’s hope this is a promise he never keeps.

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commented 2017-01-26 22:20:39 -0500
little potato …RESIGN . do the country a favor
commented 2017-01-26 17:42:20 -0500
Jeremy, mostly not wanting any change under the Liberals. I made that as clear as I could under the restraints of the survey. I was very careful how I answered, with their agenda in mind. I don’t want Justin’s cabinet anywhere near any electoral reform.
commented 2017-01-26 14:08:45 -0500
Don’t let the little turd party touch our voting laws… they are totally corrupt and we will never get rid of them.
commented 2017-01-26 11:48:20 -0500
over 50% say our democracy is not completely satisfactory and could be improved and you interpret that as them not wanting change?

You’re pretty twisted.
commented 2017-01-26 10:58:37 -0500
That little pinko isn’t feeling the love from Canadians with the “love me” tour. Media still put the loving spin on it tho’. I don’t want the libs to even think of touching electoral reform as they will surely do it for self serving reasons. I’m so pleased to see what came up from that survey, Brian Lilley, you rock.
commented 2017-01-26 09:47:26 -0500
The CRIMEMINISTER of Canada and his liberal moron thugs will ram this through at their peril , it won’t take a grade 6er to work that system to our favor ,
Then I think we should come up with a simalar system as electoral colleges or districts to balance the advantage of the laurentian triangle
commented 2017-01-26 08:53:48 -0500
Will this stop the grubby little marxist from steering towards a dictatorship? Unlikely given recent moves towards restricting freedom of speech!
commented 2017-01-26 02:58:29 -0500
More fodder for the ideals of Western Separation… And, as I’ve suggested before, some western provinces and territories to explore becoming US states… What a “pipeline” that would make for more natural resources development than any other part of the world!…
commented 2017-01-26 02:18:08 -0500
The libs new system will be awesome until they lose power , then they will hate it.
commented 2017-01-25 23:40:11 -0500
The genius of the US founding fathers to adopt the electoral college system would fit well in Canada imo. The fact that just 2 provinces decide our elections is stupid.

My only hope is that one day western Canada will finally separate and adopt a constitution constructed of the best of both countries.
commented 2017-01-25 22:32:12 -0500
Time for Gerald Butts to send Junior on an another vacation again
He gets in the way at the PMO
commented 2017-01-25 22:28:38 -0500
The boy knows what is best for you – it will be rammed though
commented 2017-01-25 22:14:41 -0500
Hussein Obama sent part of his campaign team (mostly experts in data mining as I understood it) to “assist” justin in getting elected. I guess it’s better when a cultural marxist US prez installs a foreign leader than when an evil Republican Prez does it! Ya gotta love it. Go to Trumps website and try to buy one of those “Beat the shit out me if I’m under 5’5”, skinny and alone" MAGA hats! No US address, NO HAT! Or pin, sign, t-shirt, etc.
ILLEGAL for non-US citizen to even buy a hat as the money earned is considered as a political contribution. So while I, as a Canadian, cannot buy a hat that might give I dunno 20 bucks maybe to a US Prez campaign, the sitting US prez can spend megadollars to subvert our democracy to install his preferred candidate? Where was the MSM’s outrage then?
commented 2017-01-25 21:04:07 -0500
Liza Rosie commented – “He can’t ram this through against our will can he?”

Absolutely! Nor just because he’s a majority but because of something called whipped votes – a whipped vote is the most diabolically conceived affront to democracy ever entered into by governments – it’s part of the party system – and it make your elected representative prisoner to the will of the party leader not his constituents.

But you don’t see the fake Feminist- fake democrat wanting to reform that do you – tells you all you need to know about his commitment to democracy – like all communists they see the electorate as nothing but a rubber stamp for their agendas.
commented 2017-01-25 20:45:37 -0500
I don’t want Justin and Gerry’s liberals anywhere near electoral reform. He can’t ram this through against our will can he?
commented 2017-01-25 20:33:44 -0500
PM Selfie is slowly learning his agenda (actually the agenda of hisglobalist masters he is paid to pimp to Canadians) is NOT the agenda of Canadians.

We don’t want out voting system changed to favor multiple socialist partis and we don’t want imigration changed to replace the domestic electorate with an imprted one and we don’t want our economy ruined fr some hair brained junk science hysteria.

If you do not get the message from us directly in your Love me tours, you will get it at on election night – so you can respond to Canadians will or double down on going against us and face the inevitable return to opposition benches – you sure didn’t learn from the last 10years there – maybe we let you out too soon,
commented 2017-01-25 20:29:32 -0500
The survey questions were designed to try and trick people into giving the answers the Liberals wanted. Even going in with eyes wide open and the intent to give Jihad Monsef the finger with my answers, I found I had to be extremely careful. Your average low-info voter would have fallen for it hook, line, and sinker. Unfortunately for Tator Tot, his target audience couldn’t be bothered to put down their bongs long enough to fill out the survey. Thank God enough people out there who saw through the con scuppered his little game.

Since for now “the electoral reform” path to perpetual Liberal power seems to be shut down, next up are the old standbys:

1. More Third-World immigration, more Liberal voters!
2. Lowering the voting age to 16. You just know the Libs are going to try this one again.

It’s like trying to kill a Hydra, the heads just keep growing back!
commented 2017-01-25 20:25:25 -0500
commented 2017-01-25 20:08:47 -0500
Brian: I did the survey and agree it was a farce. And according to Fair Vote Canada ( I am a member ) and the Rebel, the Liberals desired change is a system designed to keep them in power. That said our current system of first past the post is totally broken and is damaging Canada. I want a system where everyone’s vote counts and they can vote honestly, knowing they can get a proper representation based on votes. Check out Fair Vote Canada for a full run down with facts. Many bemoan what Trudeau is doing to Canada, myself included. One undeniable fact is the Liberals with 39% of the vote, received 54% of the seats and 100% of the power. The current voting system gave him this undeserved power. A proportional voting system would have prevented Trudeau’s misuse of his power in its tracks as he would only have 39% of the seats. MAKE MY VOTE COUNT !
commented 2017-01-25 20:06:04 -0500
If 57% of Canadians don’t want electoral change, why is London Ontario trying to force it down our throats with a 90 day “consultation” on ranked ballots, then decision? They don’t even have any voting machines that can count ranked ballots! Somebody needs to expose these “wanna be Liberal” for what they are. A city council with visions of grandeur.
commented 2017-01-25 19:42:06 -0500
Trudeau is not satisfied with his mass importation of Liberal Voters, he also wants a new voting system that is easy to rig.
This Guy is worse than crooked, more like evil.
commented 2017-01-25 19:37:23 -0500
I hope the libs back down, but I have the feeling that gerry butts is going to order them to ramrod this through. Cultural marxists aren’t about democracy and couldn’t care less if 99% of Canadians were against electoral reform. The reds aren’t about anything other than virtue signalling and lining their pockets. Ranked ballots give the them a chance to crush dissent and guarantee that prime feminister justin remains in power for life like all of his heroes. (Hell, his reprobate sire almost pulled it off!) This is what 1917 looked like in Russia. Let’s pray OUR “reds” lose.
commented 2017-01-25 19:21:25 -0500
all i want is people to be able to vote for there pm in a federal election not just the mp. either than that keep it the same.
commented 2017-01-25 19:07:31 -0500
Justin wants to be Canada’s forever dictator too much to let this electoral reform be stopped by the will of Canadians.
commented 2017-01-25 19:06:40 -0500
The Liberals will keep pounding on this from different angles until they get the answer they want to hear. And if they continuously get a “leave it the way it is” response from Canadians, they will jam it through with their majority anyway.
commented 2017-01-25 19:04:15 -0500
Well that restores my faith in the Canadian public, but I’m still disappointed in the recent polls that say JT would win an election if it were held today.
Maybe Justin’s poll numbers are high based on the support he gets from those that won’t vote anyways. Let’s hope so.
The results of the Mydemocracy.ca poll also shows how out-of-touch Our Dear Leader truly is.
commented 2017-01-25 18:46:03 -0500
Good one BRIAN
I fear they will come up with another angle , a leftard angle