March 01, 2015

Ryerson Students' Union rejects pro-life group because it "justifies sexual assault"?

Marissa SemkiwArchive

Toronto's Ryerson University student union has double standards when approving clubs.

Many pro-choice groups have been approved, but this pro-life group was denied.

Marissa Semkiw talks with Carter Grant, the vice-president of Students for Life at Ryerson. He tells her the criteria under which his group was denied official recognition:

The Ryerson Students' Union officially "opposes … groups, meetings, or events that promote misogynist views towards woman and ideologies that promote gender inequity, challenges women’s right to bodily autonomy, or justifies sexual assault."

Of course, sexual assault is a crime, while choosing not to abort -- or simply meeting to talk about that option -- is not.

Yet the Students' Union's policies seem to equate a peaceful pro-life group with some kind of imaginary, horrific (and unthinkable) "campus rape club."

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commented 2015-03-02 23:31:09 -0500
Great interview Marissa! Unfortunately, this is not a Ryerson issue. Many (most?) Universities in Canada deny equal opportunities and access to resources, to any group that does not toe the pc line of anti Israel, pro abortion, pro gay marriage, and climate change extremism. When did the right to freedom of speech become I have the right to stop you from speaking?
commented 2015-03-02 10:42:59 -0500
Donald Allen nailed it! They DON’T want “CHOICE”. They want ABORTION and they wish to deny the woman concerned access to any other alternative.
commented 2015-03-02 07:52:08 -0500
The best way to win an argument (the left does this best) is to control the language. That is why they invented this phoney euphamism “pro-choice” . Now Pro-life means exactly what it says . Life, living ,period. The opposite of life is death , termination . So how many times have you heard an advocate ,primarily feminist or leftist say : I am for abortion" , or even more emphatically stated, " I am for terminating , killing or taking the life of the unborn"? Probably never. And this is how I always win the argument. When I force them to start using language which depicts the reality of what an abortion is , they usually cower. They cannot defend their position when the explicit language is used.
Try it sometime. YOU might lose a friend or two along the way , but do you really want to have a friend that doesn’t value human life to the degree that you do?
commented 2015-03-01 22:26:20 -0500
“The Ryerson Students’ Union officially "opposes … groups, meetings, or events that promote misogynist views towards woman and ideologies that promote gender inequity, challenges women’s right to bodily autonomy, "

What about the Ryerson Muslim Student assoc.? Do they oppose the MSA? Women are subjugated in Islam. They are stoned to death for adultery. Has the Ryerson Student Union ever opposed the MSA? This would be a good follow-up story for the Rebel!
commented 2015-03-01 20:12:44 -0500
Oops! I meant another reason we need THEREBEL.MEDIA
commented 2015-03-01 20:10:55 -0500
So: another salvo in the left’s war on Christians, Jews, and on the Judeo-Christian values that built Canada as a nation worth living in, which it won’t be after the left gets through gutting it. The left doesn’t care about fairness or freedom for everyone. They just want control and their own sick values system imposed on everyone. Yet another reason we need THEREBEL.COM
commented 2015-03-01 18:06:28 -0500
So good to see you on Marissa. I really appreciated your perspective on issues at Sun News. It was very interesting to hear Carter Grant describe Ryerson’s response to his activism. How refreshing to hear a well-spoken young activist who sticks to the facts—unlike those who oppose him (i.e. the name-calling and issue-evasive Leftists).
commented 2015-03-01 16:06:11 -0500
Gore Vidal: “Every time a friend succeeds, I die a little”. Vidal was of course a Leftist . . .

Leftism is fundamentally authoritarian. Whether by revolution or by legislation, Leftists aim to change what people can and must do. When in 2008 Obama said that he wanted to “fundamentally transform” America, he was not talking about America’s geography or topography but rather about American people. He wanted them to stop doing things that they wanted to do and make them do things that they did not want to do. Can you get a better definition of authoritarianism than that?
commented 2015-03-01 15:20:18 -0500
ryerson is a joke and has been for quite sometime..i would would look long and hard before hiring a ryerson graduate
commented 2015-03-01 13:03:26 -0500
So Muslim student groups are not misogynistic and support gender equality that is why they are allowed
commented 2015-03-01 13:01:45 -0500
Well, now we see the anti-christian trend in universities today (Trinity Christian university students are being banned from practising law). Why don’t all the pro life Christian students and parents of these students get together and protest? People should put up huge signs around Ryerson university calling it an abortion university. Sound extreme? It’s meant to be. The university’s decision to ban a pro life group was extreme by only allowing the abortion group and needs to be brought down to it’s knees. I wish that young man representing the pro life group much success.
commented 2015-03-01 12:50:12 -0500
Ryerson is not exactly known for a promotion of free debate. It is known for promoting mostly leftist agendas. So, its rejection of a pro-life advocacy group is no bis surprise.

Some pro-life organizations have been accused of terrorist activity. And in my community, several drivers wrote local press to protest a pro-life group that stood along a busy road holding up large posters of aborted foetuses. They said the enlarged photos shocked their children, distracted drivers, and posed a safety risk.

We need our universities to support respectful free debate. Science changes all the time so issues of life, what constitutes it and its rights are never settled. We also need pro-life resources to support women who do not wish to abort even when the child is the product of violent stranger rape. The pressure on such victims to abort is intense. I knew someone whom the nurses, doctors and social workers told that she should abort because no one would ever adopt the child of a violent rapist, that her child would grow up hated and disadvantaged in foster care if she did not abort. Her family was also not supportive of her keeping the child and threatened to take her to court to seek to take the child from her based on an allegation she must be mentally ill to love a child created by rape. She could have used some pro-life support.

Good luck to Carter Grant.
commented 2015-03-01 12:36:15 -0500
Pro-Life advocates espouse views that are contrary to the leftist, socialist viewpoint, so, of course, they will not be welcome on university campuses. Today, it seems that the raison d’etre for most universities is to socially engineer the future generation along a specific path, and anything that may hinder that goal will not be tolerated. One only needs to look at the comments being made by our liberal and NDP leaders and loyal party supporters to reach that conclusion.
commented 2015-03-01 11:10:42 -0500
The people who make the decisions about what student groups will be allowed have already permitted a pro-choice group to form. It only stands to reason that these same people would not now allow a group to form that would espouse a dissenting position. That is how intolerant people operate when they achieve any kind of power.

It always seems to be intolerant people who are the ones most concerned with achieving said power. They might make fine Liberal politicians someday.
commented 2015-03-01 10:56:58 -0500
They do twist themselves into a pretzel on that topic. Thanks for your thoughts, Wanda – and I totally agree.
commented 2015-03-01 10:48:36 -0500
Milan, don’t get me started on that topic. I don’t know what kind of mental gymnastics one has to do to reconcile the idea that women are equal to men as human beings but it’s cool to kill female fetuses/baby girls if your culture values males children more than females. Sex selective abortions should be criminalized. Period. It’s monstrous.

This is an example of how eventually the various hardcore “ists” start engaging in intellectual dishonesty to a point where they cut off their noses to spite their faces.
commented 2015-03-01 09:59:27 -0500
Another topic that the radical feminist movement trips over itself over is the issue of gender-specific abortions. They are 100% in favour of abortion on demand for any reason, yet they do not stand up for the basic right for a female baby to be born.

Your thoughts, Wanda? I am growing to respect your opinion daily.
commented 2015-03-01 09:40:48 -0500
Yes it’s misogynistic on a couple of levels: For one they are denying pro-life women freedom of expression although they allow other groups on campus to express their own, sometimes controversial views, and secondly they are treating the women in the pro life group as though they are just poor misguided dupes who have been brainwashed into these misguided beliefs. In doing so they are denying that these women are capable of free thought and entitled to have their own opinions on this issue. There’s a lot of hypocrisy floating around Ryerson.
commented 2015-03-01 08:40:53 -0500
Hmmm…..not allowing another option on campus is NOT misogynous in its own right? The same University that celebrates Israeli Apartheid Week……enough said.
commented 2015-03-01 08:04:19 -0500
I assume that the student union takes the position that anything that restricts a woman’s right to choose is inherently misogynistic and so offends that part of their policy. So…what about the Ryerson Muslim Student Association? Do they support women’s equality? Isn’t Islam inherently misogynistic? Yet the MSA appears to have been given the student union’s seal of approval. A while back, the MSA invited Abdur Raheem Green, a hate preacher from the Islamic Education and Research Academy to share his wisdom with Ryerson Students. Green bailed at the last minute for reasons that were not expained but it wasn’t because of pressure from the student union.

Although I support women’s right to reproductive freedom, I get the concerns of pro life advocates. I think there is a pressing need for an adult conversation about the these issues . I’m alarmed at the way they are being vilified. When one considers the range of speech that is tolerated on university campuses, it’s bizarre that these groups are being outright banned.