October 06, 2017

Death of Energy East brings more conflict oil to Canada

Holly NicholasRebel Commentator

TransCanada declined to elaborate on their reasons for pulling the plug on Energy East, but they didn’t need to. The federal government has axed almost every major oil and gas project it had a hand in, costing the Canadian economy billions. 

In addition to the hit to our economy however, other repercussions from this pipeline being cancelled are against Canadian values.

Now that Energy East is dead, we can expect more conflict oil from OPEC countries like Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Algeria, and beyond.

Thirty-three percent of the foreign oil coming into Canada was from the OPEC Cartel last year and Canadians paid $2.5B to Saudi Arabia for their oil in 2014 alone.

With the demand for oil set to increase as the population increases, we can expect that figure to rise. The Liberals and the Alberta NDP said yes to this project on the surface, but Energy East is dead, so really, they said yes to more conflict oil.

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commented 2017-10-10 13:08:57 -0400
No matter Andrew, it is still far better to support our own industry/people than the rich Arab states don’t spread the wealth to their people but are ready to export terrorism and Islamic doctrine.
commented 2017-10-10 11:54:28 -0400
“Drew Wakariuk commented 1 day ago
Andrew Stephenson actually it has a larger carbon footprint due to being shipped. I thought you were worried about Carbon? And why get it form them we have lots, and it creates jobs and tax revenue. "

Does it, though? It might have to be shipped but the Saudis don’t have to cook it out of the sand first. The amount of energy needed to extract the bitumen has aways been a major problem with the resource. Even though newer techniques are better than old, it’s not a trivial issue. The energy to ship a barrel of oil from the Middle East could well be less than that needed to extract and upgrade a barrel of bitumen, even if it does need to be shipped two or three times further.

The problem with oil sands jobs is that those more efficient in-situ methods generate a lot fewer jobs and the aggressive cost-cutting to make them viable at $50/bbl by necessity eliminates a lot of those very expensive workers. Most of the work being created now is in expansion rather than steady state production, and energy east would lead to only a transient gain during construction, assuming that they didn’t simply use existing capacity. In addition the boom-bust nature of the oilpatch may cause more problems than it solves. I think energy already occupies too much of our economy and we should instead be leveraging the transient booms to generate a more stable mature economy.
commented 2017-10-10 08:24:37 -0400
We need to follow the money, every one must be told where every cent is sent to.
Voters who see that thier taxes have increased while their benefits and standards of living have decreased will turf the present government from office.
Really scratching at the liberal scab that is our senior government will reveal the puss that is present and citizens may finally realize what is going on.
Perhaps the main stream media might finally blow the whistle on the government scumbags if enough people start to question the honesty and patriotism of the ruling elite.
commented 2017-10-09 21:02:19 -0400
Prime lending rate is in negative territory so no money there. The east has not paid a dime in 30 years so that’s a wash. No jobs other then min wage ones left. Refugees are still and will be for at least 10 years bleeding the system. Record taxes at all time highs that money is going to third world country’s that want us dead so where is the up side.
commented 2017-10-09 20:54:50 -0400
It does not matter the idiots on the hill can bankrupt oil here all they want. No one is paying the bills now it’s just a matter of time before canada is in bankruptcy. They forget one falls we all go down.
commented 2017-10-09 00:51:35 -0400
Andrew Stephenson actually it has a larger carbon footprint due to being shipped. I thought you were worried about Carbon? And why get it form them we have lots, and it creates jobs and tax revenue.
commented 2017-10-08 22:42:51 -0400
RYAN SIMPSON
If Alberta could manage to trigger a close referendum to secede, Ottawa would fear losing the goose that laid the golden egg and begin to capitulate to our needs. This is proven by history when you look at the Quebec referendum of the ’90’s… that close referenderum vote placed Ottawa’s balls squarely in the hands of the Bloc Quebecois. Ottawa won’t budge on anything until they have to. Albert’s 29 seats agains Ottawa’s 131 seats is just bringing a knife to a gunfight. A seperation party is forming – WIPA – that could, given time trigger a referendum, and at least scare Ottawa into capitulating. Even if Alberta doesn’t seperate in a referendum, at least we would have some teeth! WIPA needs signatures! Download the form here: http://alberta.independence-movement.org/wipa-party-platform/

Sign it and get friends to sign it. We can do this Alberta! Let’s get some teeth! We all got a dog in this fight, Ottawa won’t take Jason Kenney or anyone else seriously until they are motivated by fear. Why would they? 29 seats agaisnt 131? Yeah right!
commented 2017-10-08 21:56:49 -0400
Jay Kelly takes time away from the Rebel, cue Andrew Stephenson…
Not about the environment! Eco-fascists are an inane group!
commented 2017-10-08 20:03:26 -0400
!/3 of our oil is imported from OPEC – Similarly, Saudi Arabia has increased oil shipments to Canada from 73,000 bpd in 2014, to 84,000 bpd in 2015 and close to 87,000 bpd in 2016. OPEC supplied just under 33 per cent of oil to Canada last year, from around 26 per cent in 2015, NEB data shows.

That is economically ridiculous for a nation which could easily be fully energy self sufficient – we are using the oil anyway why not keep the cash at home, why needlessly send Canadian capital off shore? Anyone stating otherwise is either stupid beyond medical help, or pimping for OPEC – and those making energy policy in Ottawa are both.
commented 2017-10-08 18:49:12 -0400
Andrew asks, “Does that matter?”.
Nope, not one iota because none of this is about the environment. This is about keeping Canada out of exports. The main players will not let Canada extract their resources. They don’t want anymore competition for the available markets. They will take Canadian oil and gas when they need to and it won’t be under our terms. For now hobbling us is the plan. This has not one blessed thing to do with saving the planet. Lies all bloody lies. I don’t know if you believe your own codswallop Andrew, but I sure don’t.
NOT ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT or Carbon dioxide.
commented 2017-10-08 17:16:39 -0400
When you do not let the forest burn it can not renew it self and the dry dead material builds up over years which makes a forest fire more deadly. If we let nature do what’s necessary no need to worry about carbon because it’s a basic of life on earth. Global warming is a joke or fake news when in fact this planet goes through cycles.they go off of data from a hundered years of history on a planet they say is hundereds of millions years old.
commented 2017-10-08 16:57:34 -0400
This is the NUT from QUE can bulk up his funds.
commented 2017-10-08 16:35:37 -0400
Andrew Stevenson you choose to be wilfully uninformed therefore that makes you too stupid to be trainable..
commented 2017-10-08 14:35:40 -0400
Less than 100kbpd of our oil comes from Saudi Arabia. It was never a major supplier. Fully half of our imports are from the US, and that’s conceptually similar to simply shipping our own oil through the States. (we import less from them, they have more domestically, and reduce imports from us accordingly. End result is a wash)

“Mark Goddard commented 15 mins ago
These middle east countries also do not have the huge forested lands that we have. Nor do they have huge crops of wheat and corn, etc. that absorb CO2.

Does that matter? The end result of burning a litre of oil is emission of about 2.5kg of carbon dioxide, no matter where that oil came from, and the forests absorb it the same either way (assuming they do net-absorb, which they don’t seem to be in recent years thanks to worsening fire conditions) CO2 is not a local problem. In fact the lifecycle emissions of a litre of saudi oil may well be less than that of one from bitumen, which despite improvements still has a fairly low ROI on energy relative to conventional crude.
commented 2017-10-08 14:17:58 -0400
These middle east countries also do not have the huge forested lands that we have. Nor do they have huge crops of wheat and corn, etc. that absorb CO2. So bringing in this oil contributes to more CO2 in the atmosphere. Canadians oil is offset by our vast vegetation here. Vegetation that absorbs and CO2 and converts in through photosynthesis to O2.
commented 2017-10-08 13:14:34 -0400
If Alberta could manage to trigger a close referendum to secede, Ottawa would fear losing the goose that laid the golden egg and begin to capitulate to our needs. This is proven by history when you look at the Quebec referendum of the ’90’s… that close referenderum vote placed Ottawa’s balls squarely in the hands of the Bloc Quebecois. Ottawa won’t budge on anything until they have to. Albert’s 29 seats agains Ottawa’s 131 seats is just bringing a knife to a gunfight. A seperation party is forming – WIPA – that could, given time trigger a referendum, and at least scare Ottawa into capitulating. Even if Alberta doesn’t seperate in a referendum, at least we would have some teeth! WIPA needs signatures! Download the form here:

http://alberta.independence-movement.org/wipa-party-platform/

Sign it and get friends to sign it. We can do this Alberta! Let’s get some teeth! We all got a dog in this fight, Ottawa won’t take Jason Kenney or anyone else seriously until they are motivated by fear. Why would they? 29 seats agaisnt 131? Yeah right!
commented 2017-10-08 10:45:03 -0400
Today on Nasty Post site: "National Post View: “Surprise, surprise, the government sabotages yet another energy project”. The Rebel is no longer alone. I noted, in the comments section, a number of comments from Ontario residents supporting Western Canada.
commented 2017-10-08 10:28:41 -0400
Good point Robert Raymond..

Hopefully the over 20 and under 30 crowd will be able to see through that deception… I fear for the younger kids beyond that.
commented 2017-10-08 08:39:18 -0400
The Trudeau government is wasting hundreds of millions to legalize pot while most Canadians can’t afford a pot to piss in.
They are working on keeping the mass of the sheeple brain dead so they can be elected for another term while screwing all of the citizens of this country.
It is high time some kind of a revolt is started.
commented 2017-10-08 01:54:33 -0400
This government is literally waging war on it’s citizens.
commented 2017-10-08 01:44:38 -0400
Let’s not forget. Canada Steam Ship Lines, Lines owned by Liberal Paul Martin registered outside of Canada receiving taxpayer dollars in subsidies is transporting this Saudi Oil to Canada!
commented 2017-10-08 01:44:38 -0400
Let’s not forget. Canada Steam Ship Lines, Lines owned by Liberal Paul Martin registered outside of Canada receiving taxpayer dollars in subsidies is transporting this Saudi Oil to Canada!
commented 2017-10-07 22:36:50 -0400
Quebec played the long game and instead of Sovereignty Association they just took over the entire country under another dirty rat Trudeau.
commented 2017-10-07 21:16:11 -0400
I wish we would shut the taps off to the lower mainland. They will try to block the twinning of the line, then the Feminist will intervene and call a moratorium citing some first nations calamity or Suzuki will discover a fruit fly along the route and everything will grind to a halt. The same disappointment we feel now we will probably feel again. Anyone who ever had one thought that Notely or Trudeau wanted any of these lines meet me at your bank, I got things to sell. They were all convinced Hillary was going to win, it would be ALL open borders and no pipelines. Trump threw a monkey wrench into the mix and look at the scramble that has now ensued. If I hear “social license” from Trudeau or Notely ever again, someone send me a bump stock. Please stricken from the English language…social license, diversity, inclusive and progressive to begin with, more to come’
commented 2017-10-07 18:20:10 -0400
Well this part of Canada will not be dependent on foreign oil at all, because it is literally under our feet and easy to use. So the Saudis and the Selfie Queen can pound sand.

If the rest of Canada is happy to follow the PM off the cliff, thanks for the past 112 years.
commented 2017-10-07 17:17:18 -0400
…and Justin is planning on using the resulting austerity to control us.
commented 2017-10-07 16:43:15 -0400
Yes, Trudeau put foreign interests ahead of Canadian interests, and that keeps us dependant on foreign oil, and unable to use our own. All the ‘emotional’ arguments and moral posturing is just a smoke screen. We are not being allowed to play. Trudeau is the puppet who is facilitating that for the global investors who will benefit and who couldn’t care less that they are stepping on Canada to do it. You snooze you lose. We are now officially the world’s sucker, relegated to service as doormat.
commented 2017-10-07 16:17:05 -0400
The main goal of the energy east pipeline was energy self sufficiency for Canada and our surplus could be marketed to secure Canadian economic self sufficiency – nothing less or more. The emotional arguments about “safety” and “environmental destruction” are fraudulent misdirects because the portion of the pipeline in Ont -Que already flows with oil only the direction would change. This entire debacle has nothing to do with the Rebel dividing Canadians as globalist bots emote – the job of dividing Canadians has been adequately accomplished by the Truedough government who put foreign interests ahead of Canadian interests.
commented 2017-10-07 13:28:07 -0400
Me Notyou good post. We do not have the infrastructure to accommodate Justin’s invitees. We have never seen these numbers in this short a period of time. Food shortages, housing everything will be stretched. You think it has been hard to find a doctor and get timely medical care in the past? We are becoming Venezuela, fast.
Time to take your bug-out list to the stores. We will be on our own.

I am worried about property taxes. I can take care of myself and am pretty handy and prepared, but if they make it impossible for me to stay in my house I will be in trouble.
commented 2017-10-07 13:17:23 -0400
If the Saudis decided to trade in another currency say the Euro instead of the US dollar the US economy would crash. Saddam and Gaddafi had using different currencies in mind apparently, and look what happened to them. Look what happened to Vietnam when they were going to do business with China.
http://www.luckinlove.com/oilwar.htm Vietnam was a resource war. Getting Assad out is all about a oil pipeline.

The US provide military support for Saudi Arabia and in return the US dollar remains the currency the world trades oil in. The Saudis hold that over the head of the US. I think the US has been left to develop their fracking if they have a hand in, or at least stay out of the way in the globally decided decision to make sure Canada does not develop their oil reserves, which would be competition the Saudis or Russians are not willing to accept. Now Iran will be allowed to play big and we are out. We are the quiet, stupid, slow, complacent player that has been relegated to the dumpster to help ensure the rest of the players get a good return. In the game of musical chairs we lost out. The Saudis run OPEC and have a pretty good ‘negotiating’ tool in the US currency threat, to manipulate the US. Looks like the west is doing a lot of favors for the Saudis. Putin doesn’t need any competition in Europe or China and desperately need the cash. All the players are in on it and Soros , Rockefeller et al are riding that pony to the banks.

Justin is playing the part the globalists have given us to play. He will be richly rewarded. Canada will lose. I think many of our politicians are jumping onto that bandwagon. I think it now is a ‘if you can’t beat them join them ’ mentality, and /or people are being threatened. It is a serious game. Either way you are looking at it, we are not being allowed to play. The big players say so.
I am disgusted and disheartened. I am afraid we have lost out.

Robert Kiyosaki explains some of it here, quite simply.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X6LZcXMGK8
Oil Lies and Taxes What it means for creating wealth Robert Kiyosaki Lecture