May 13, 2015

Question of the Day: Should off the clock behaviour be grounds for termination?

Emily PrattRebel Correspondent

A Hydro One employee was caught on tape yelling profanities at at female reporter and it cost him his job.

I asked if off-the-clock behavior should be grounds for termination.

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commented 2015-05-14 09:50:00 -0400
um, does the name Ben Levin ring a bell?
commented 2015-05-14 09:42:02 -0400
What happened to freedom of speech? Should your employer control what you say off the job?
Prime example of the leftist trends submerging our freedoms.
commented 2015-05-14 09:15:21 -0400
I thought these guys were unionized, which means he will grieve this and likely be compensated with full pay for it.
commented 2015-05-14 05:29:21 -0400
The point on the code of conduct which demonstrates that “off the clock” behaviour cannot reasonably be grounds for dismissal is consumption of alcohol. No employer in the realm where these “codes of conduct” are required tolerates drinking on the job…but do you think firing people for being drunk on their own time would fly?
commented 2015-05-13 21:34:52 -0400
Most people have to sign a vague “Code of Conduct” agreement. It seldom speaks towards anything specific, and is usually a catch all so people can be dismissed when a legitimate reason does not exist, such as in this case. Hydro One is merely caving to all the bullies on social media.

Kim, I agree with you, but it certainly doesn’t make it right (morally or legally). It would be malicious behavior and is as equally immature as the guys who yelled into mic. (for firing someone because of freckles)

I shouldn’t fear my job because I make this post.

That being said, should every person who is gloating over this man losing his job loose theirs? Who could feel safe at their job knowing the person next to them is a bully on social media?
commented 2015-05-13 21:00:04 -0400
Sharon Lamarche…just about any time in the workplace if a male tries to initiate a conversation with a female he has never met before he could be subject to a sexual harassment complaint AT THE CAPRICIOUS WHIM of that woman. Yet women assume they are entitled to do so whenever and wherever it pleases them.

There are any number of circumstances where if a man tries to initiate a conversation with a female who is in a group of females who want to make insulting him a sport…he is obliged to suck it up and code of conduct be damned …if he tries to make it an issue…HE will become the issue.

It is from this poisonous double standard that pop culture contempt of women has arisen.

Am I obliged to be polite to the various pollsters and marketing survey pests…not to mention the “windows technical department” scammers who make unsolicited calls to me at home? Because they can attest I am not. Does the code of conduct apply there?
commented 2015-05-13 20:04:46 -0400
Shawn Simoes signed employment contract states, in part, “treat everyone with dignity and respect” he breached that. Simoes’ female colleagues would constantly be aware of his feelings for women – he made that quite clear. The clause didn’t specify “only on Company business”.
commented 2015-05-13 19:33:47 -0400
No! And he should sue Hydro One for wrongful dismissal. The guy may be a lout or an assh*le in his personal time but that’s not against the law nor is it any business of Hydro’s. Now, if he was sporting a Hydro One ID badge or was otherwise recognizable as one of their employees while behaving like an assh*le, that might be a different story.
commented 2015-05-13 19:22:49 -0400
Short answer: NO! – If your employer wants to gag your spontaneous expression but profit from your spontaneous creativity , they should go fXXk themselves in the Pxxx – you don’t want to work for a grasping tyrant like that – If you sign such a gag order you have low self esteem and low expectations of your work place and your professional worth.
commented 2015-05-13 19:02:59 -0400
The CBC got me on camera saying “screw the CBC sell it to Al-Jazeera”…when you walk up to a stranger and point a microphone at them like a witch doctor pointing a bone there are times that you can expect a rude response…nobody is obliged to be polite to THE REBEL and nobody is obliged to be polite to any other media. If you risk your livelihood when the media point a microphone at you then nobody should say ANYTHING to the media.
commented 2015-05-13 19:02:19 -0400
As far as I’m concerned, a person can be fired just because the boss doesn’t like the pattern of his freckles.
commented 2015-05-13 19:02:13 -0400
Then most people would have to be dismissed for using profanity in public. The board of Hydro would all have to be terminated.
commented 2015-05-13 18:05:16 -0400
Unless they are required to sign a code of conduct agreement for their job, then I think it depends on the type of job they’re doing. If they have any contact with the public at all as representatives of their employer, and that would include any kind of work done in public view, or as service agents making house calls, then bad conduct outside of working hours I believe would be grounds for dismissal. But if they work in a back room somewhere, out of view of the public, then the only thing they do that could sully their employers reputation would be poor workmanship. In those cases, conduct outside of working hours should not be grounds for dismissal, with a few exceptions. That would be criminal activity and, as I said, if they signed a code of conduct agreement, and they knew the rules up front.
commented 2015-05-13 17:38:08 -0400
Define “off-the-clock” behaviour. Is it language? Is it actions? Is it other peoples’ perspectives and opinions? Would you complain to my boss if you saw me in my bandana, leathers, and “colors” riding around on my loud Harley? If not, why not? If so, why? (Wouldn’t that be offensive?) If I’m polite in clients’ homes, but turn the air blue around my riding buddies, is that offensive?