September 02, 2019

SPECIAL: Gavin McInnes and Ezra Levant talk censorship, pronouns, Antifa and mob rule

Ezra LevantRebel Commander

(CONTENT WARNING)

Gavin McInnes was a big hit with Rebel viewers for years, and many of his videos have collected over one million views. 

Later he was hired away to work for CRTV, and he soon was one of the first conservative voices to experience deplatforming and marginalization as he was banned from most social media. 

For this special episode of The Ezra Levant Show, I sat down with Gavin in New York City on his FreeSpeech.tv studio set to catch up and chat about the phenomenon of leftists who want to silence and censor opponents instead of debate.

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commented 2019-09-12 12:12:41 -0400
This morning I posted the following two letters on the CBC news stream. The bias of the “content disabled” media is obvious. incidentally I’m very much enjoying “Libranos”:
John Spence
14 minutes ago
CONTENT DISABLED
 If the PM had truly wanted SNC-Lavalin to escape prosecution for bribery of a foreign government, he could have ordered the RCMP Commissioner (who reports and takes orders from the PMO) to have the charges quietly withdrawn “for lack of evidence” or some-such white untruth, instead of trying to corrupt his Attorney General into doing it for him.
John Spence
53 minutes ago
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 Mr. Trudeau recently offered benefit packages to groups of his choosing to buy votes, to be charged eventually to those who pay taxes, few of whom benefit from his largesse. Apart from being done inside Canada under our noses, how is this blatant rob-Peter-to-buy-Paul’s-vote different from SNC’s alleged bribing of Ghaddafi’s Libyan regime, done to buy a favourable response to a construction contract bid? 

One can be certain that the company who won the bidding contest in Libya, paid bigger bribes than SNC-Lavalin. Hopefully the winning party in the election will not be the party making even more outrageous promises than Le Parrain Trudeau 

If Mr. Trudeau truly wanted SNC-Lavalin to desist from bribing foreigners, he should forbid them from bidding at all on foreign contacts in third world countries, because without bribes, SNC-Lavalin would be wasting their time. 

If the PM had truly wanted SNC-Lavalin to escape prosecution for bribery of a foreign government, he could have ordered the RCMP Commissioner (who reports and takes orders from the PMO) to have the charges quietly withdrawn “for lack of evidence” or some-such white untruth, instead of trying to corrupt his Attorney General into doing it for him. 

We are still free enough, and possibly stupid enough, to vote for this crap. 
commented 2019-09-05 01:56:51 -0400
lol, good luck with that.
commented 2019-09-04 13:46:51 -0400
Johnathan Cox that is an absolutely stellar comment. Even without the fabulous closing.
commented 2019-09-04 03:39:58 -0400
A great chat between two old friends, it’s nice to see Gavin on the Rebel and I also enjoyed seeing him recently on Crowder. If you don’t like Gavin’s style then head right on over to the CBC with the rest of the fucktards.

I hope Gavin is right that the west could be reaching a tipping point, I’m not optimistic though. This idiotic Echo Generation is screwing up the West in ways I never thought were even possible. “What a goin’ on” as my Newfie friends up here would say. The Echo Generation is a huge demographic. If these children never grow up, get married, have kids, find God, work hard and pay taxes we’ll never see any change. They’re so disconnected from their own self worth and history that they will never appreciate how any of this came to be in the first place. But in their defense they’re being taught to hate themselves in school. They fill their heads with shit daily. This current generation will be even worse but they’re irrelevant, the Echo Generation, because of it’s size, will dominate our culture until long after we’re all dead and just like the Boomers did before them they’ll call the shots. There is hope though because they themselves will change. Many of them will grow up, have kids, find God, work hard and pay taxes and they will change. It might be too little and too late but generally speaking people tend to act their age.

This is why independent journalism and free speech are so important right now. I will definitely find my way to freespeech.tv and subscribe.

I know you’re not supposed to feed the troll but I think John “I’m too much of a Fucking Pussy to Use my Real Name” Wick is a closet homo and I’d like to smack the face right off him.
commented 2019-09-04 02:08:43 -0400
John Wick ranked by who? We had more freedom and were better off under Harper and that is a FACT!!!
commented 2019-09-03 23:44:04 -0400
Yeah and Butts tweets that Sweden is second place I guess he doesn’t read the papers. Sweden is a third world shithole, just like Canada is aspiring to under these clowns.
commented 2019-09-03 23:31:17 -0400
John Galt,

I am happy to debate. Canada has been ranked the number one country in the world for quality of life….4 years in a row now with those 4 years being the Trudeau government.

So with quality of life in Canada being the best in the entire world – why should anyone want to change that by electing Bernier or Scheer?
commented 2019-09-03 22:36:28 -0400
Liz Rosie:
Actually,I think they are much less than ambulance chasers.An ambulance chaser has,at least,a monetary objective or “a story to tell”.
These cretins are similar to an appendix.It exists…it serves no purpose….it quite frequently becomes infected and possibly life-threatening….and the solution is surgery.In this instance,the solution is intellectual surgery……
commented 2019-09-03 21:19:12 -0400
John Galt, Paul and Dan. I call them ambulance chasers. They think they get a whiff of blood and they’re all over it.
commented 2019-09-03 21:17:22 -0400
Certainly Paul. To each his own.
commented 2019-09-03 21:06:19 -0400
Paul Dixon:
Unfortunately,you are devoting time,energy and thought process to a lost cause.Sean Penson and the other “alleged” liberals on this site do not want “real debate”.
Simply scan numerous former topics/threads on Rebel and you will find (repeatedly) comments by the Marx(less) Bros.which,to a very large degree,are designed to deflect and detract from the subject matter.
I find they are best served by ridicule and mockery rather than a rational,thoughtful answer.
commented 2019-09-03 20:39:11 -0400
Paul Dixon,

People here don’t want real debate – that is why anyone with an opposing view is called a troll. Healthy debate between liberals and conservatives here is most definitely not welcome.

Rebel fans want this place to be a safe space for conservative views only and anything less than that is deemed to be trolling. That is NOT believing in healthy debate as you said.
commented 2019-09-03 20:36:13 -0400
Paul Dixon,

The fact of the matter is that Gavin gave The Rebel their most views and popularity over anyone else here. That is why Ezra let his vulgarity slide. It was Gavin who helped The Rebel get many of their subscribers – not from Canada, but from America. Truth be told, Ezra would kill to have Gavin back since The Rebel hasn’t been doing well.
commented 2019-09-03 20:24:17 -0400
When you find yourself and fellow travelers stranded on a remote deserted island…..Sean Penson is the one you send to troll for sharks with a pork chop tied to his ankle because…..well….sharks gotta eat and it didn’t cost anything and you didn’t lose anything……nothing at all.He thought it was a great career opportunity.
commented 2019-09-03 19:50:31 -0400
Yes, Sean, because we believe, unlike you on the left, that debate is healthy, hopefully productive for clearing the air, and a way of sharpening each other up. I have appreciated Liza’s comments in the past. Liza and I disagree on this issue, but I hope that we can at least appreciate each other’s perspective as being valid but different from our own.

But I pity those on the left, Sean, like you, who think it is cute to just sit on the sidelines eating their gummy bears, making silly comments about people, and laughing (by themselves) because they think it is funny to try and stir the pot. I used to have those types of kids in my elementary school classes, and they were almost exclusively low achievers whose lack of maturity and social skills made them look foolish to everyone except themselves! We always felt sorry for them. Thankfully many of them grew out of it as they became older, into their later teen years.

Isn’t there some left wing website on which you would fit better. From what I have read on this site in the comments, no one here has any use or time for your silly “contributions”. Go play the “irritation game” with some of your own, or take my hint and grow up!
commented 2019-09-03 19:39:06 -0400
Dan asks, “Instead, how about an intelligent suggestion of what we should do about those unconscionable, immoral, sneak-thief scoundrels, ne’er do wells and pecker-wood retard trolls, hell-bent on gumming up the works at THEREBEL!”

You mean like Sean Penson here? I don’t think there is a damn thing we can do about Penson or Wick or Andrew for that matter. Ezra is a free speech absolutist, and as much as I hate the trolls I have to agree with free speech absolutely. You can’t have free speech if there is any qualifier of any kind after it. I used to want to ban the trolls, but now free speech is becoming to dear to mince its meaning.
commented 2019-09-03 19:18:08 -0400
I love this, Rebel supporters fighting each other, over Gavin of all things! 😂
commented 2019-09-03 17:49:19 -0400
Methinks, Liza, that you are slightly overreacting. I said nothing about banning anybody, so I have no idea where that came from. There is no hint of that in anything that I wrote! I was giving my personal opinion after reading a lot of glowing comments about him.

I was giving constructive criticism as to how I think he could get his message across to more people in a more effective manner. And I suggested, as a contributor to The Rebel, that Gavin, to me, was more a liability to The Rebel than a benefit. I have read a number of other contributors here in the past suggest to Ezra that he not use foul language. Where am I being any different?

I personally find the left to be vulgar and crude – some of the language and name-calling that I read from their politicians and commentators is, to me, barbaric and childish at the same time. I would like to think that the right/conservatives could behave in a more civilized manner, with sound, logical, fact-based, intelligent arguments, presented in a firm, assertive, non-surrendering fashion that, in the end, will hopefully win the day. That is the basis upon which we should be attempting to win back this country/continent – not through trashy, foul-mouthed, vulgar mud-slinging that, for the most part, appeals to the basest, lowest elements of our human nature. Steven Crowder does a great job in his “Change My Mind” videos.

So chill out, Liza – read carefully what I have written and take it for what it says. Sheesh!!
commented 2019-09-03 13:59:23 -0400
I don’t think Gavin gives a flying finger wag about who takes him ‘seriously’ and who understands where he is coming from and the manner in which he has chosen to deliver it. He is who he is, and he does what he does. Take him or leave him. If he is too over the top for some, is that then what dictates what is too over the top for all? It sounds like Paul Dixon would ban Gavin from the Rebel if he had the power. Someone finds ‘whatever’ offensive, so off with his head? That really sounds like the intolerant left.
Don’t like him, don’t watch.
From what I understand, Ezra and Gavin are pretty good friends.
commented 2019-09-03 13:22:02 -0400
Gavin wants to be taken seriously, for his views – Proud Boys was not meant as a comedy act. His use of “humour” (his comedy) is only a mask for trying to get his serious issues across. His vulgarity is the key to his so-called “humour”.

Without the vulgarity, the shock treatment, he could be much more effective and have a wider audience, although he would likely lose some of his current followers who love the crudity and infantile behaviour. He is bright, well-traveled, and has a lot of good things to say, but I think that his moral compass needs some recalibration.

Another one is Steven Crowder. I really enjoy his “Change My Mind” things in public, where he is polite and well-spoken – his intelligence comes through. But his in-studio shows contain enough vulgarity to make them no-go zones for me, and likely many others.

And then these guys come out and say that they are Christians. Give me a break!!
commented 2019-09-03 13:18:32 -0400
PAUL DIXON:
So what exactly are you suggesting, that Gavin’s free speech rights be shut down because you object to some words he uses?
No one’s forcing you to watch…and there was a Content Warning.

If you’ve spent much time here perusing the comment section you will understand why some here may think you’re a lefty troll, or a reincarnated lefty troll, because you don’ quite come across as sincere…but maybe also, we are just a bit paranoid of lefty infiltration by lefties in disguise…since they are unconscionable, immoral, sneak-thief scoundrels, ne’er do wells and pecker-wood retards, hell-bent on gumming up the works at THEREBEL!

Instead, how about an intelligent suggestion of what we should do about those unconscionable, immoral, sneak-thief scoundrels, ne’er do wells and pecker-wood retard trolls, hell-bent on gumming up the works at THEREBEL!
commented 2019-09-03 12:59:12 -0400
Gavin is a comedian. Being inoffensive isn’t a part of the job description.
commented 2019-09-03 12:39:06 -0400
Could Gavin get his point across without the vulgarity and arrogance? Yes. He constantly cuts Ezra off. His mouth is like a sewer. Most controversial topics can be debated without the need for vulgarity. Someone who is fine with vulgarity and gutter talk will not be put off by the use of clean and articulate language. But someone who sees vulgarity as childish and offensive, which it definitely is, just shuts out someone like Gavin. A little swearing is part of most people’s daily interactions, certainly with many people whom I know, but Gavin takes it way too far. I would not recommend to ANYONE to watch or listen to him, even those who swear.

So is the goal to reach people with the real message, or simply to make some laugh and offend others in order to gain an audience and make money? Is our goal to have truth win out, or arrogance and vulgarity.

I feel sorry for Gavin’s wife and kids, that they have to both listen to and watch this trash now and will have to apologize to others for it in the future. I would be ashamed if he were my son, and I would disassociate myself from him if he were my father. What an embarrassment.

And I really do not think that Ezra thinks much of it either, as evidenced by his failure to really laugh much at a lot of what Gavin says. So I suggest that Ezra just leave Gavin to do his thing away from The Rebel.
commented 2019-09-03 11:34:30 -0400
Gavin’s censorship has been an extreme and over the top example of just how far the left are pushing it, and the worst part is much of it happens because people cave. The first guys caves and the domino effect has been started. Throwing someone under the bus because of fear of escalated discrimination instead of standing up, is all the weakness the left needs to go in for the kill. They want people afraid to speak or associate with those who do. ‘Speak out and you will get what Gavin got and more, so be quelled people, put a sock in it.’ Stand up to it and you come out the other side, like Gavin has. I’m interested in the people who come out the other side, whole and intact. It shows the mob they can’t win.
commented 2019-09-03 11:20:56 -0400
Regarding the Proud Boys, they were formed to peacefully protect people at events and demonstrations from antifa bullies and wannabe leftist thugs, never as attack dogs. They were never what they are being portrayed as. I hope the ones facing jail for self defence are dealt with fairly. Especially in light of the fact that the antifa attackers got off scott free. There is no other group in North America more singled out and attacked for just existing, than the straight white male right now. Proud Boys are wrongfully being made an example of. The left are sending the message, “don’t you dare defend yourself or others. don’t you dare fight back.”
commented 2019-09-03 11:16:40 -0400
That’s the wonderful thing about freedom of speech and thought. You don’t have to watch, especially if you already know you don’t like something, and even if you don’t know what you are walking into, with a “content warning” heads up, you can choose to save yourself the offense by moving on. As they say, ‘it wouldn’t do if we were all the same ,now would it?’.
commented 2019-09-03 09:00:14 -0400
I am no prude, but I could only handle about five minutes of this interview. McInnes’ language, though funny to many, is disgusting and belongs in the outhouse. I agree with many of his positions, but I wish that Ezra would not bother with him. His bravado is also over the top and obnoxious.

There are certainly many other people out there who are far more articulate and use language that is respectful, who would be a more interesting interview than McInnes on the topic of censorship. I am glad that he is gone from The Rebel.
commented 2019-09-02 22:49:57 -0400
I love Gavin’s irreverence, always have. Things sure have changed in the past five years. Everyone on the left is in perpetual offence mode. I think it comes from the mold they inhale living under rocks. The resulting brain rot makes them stupid, humourless boring and ugly.

I know that the pearl clutching virtue signaller’s have made Gavin and his family’s lives, hell this past year. Glad he has never caved. Appeasement hurts everybody else’s chances of standing up to the bullying. Everyone who rises from the ashes is an inspiration to the rest of us, so thanks Gavin.
-——————
No man survives when freedom fails
The best men rot in filthy jails
And those who cry ‘appease, appease’
Are hanged by those they tried to please.
-Hiram Mann-

So it seems that we have a better chance of success telling them to ‘stuff it’ rather than doing the ‘Alinsky jig’. They won’t get off our backs with appeasement, so we may as well take them for a ride, on our own terms.
commented 2019-09-02 22:47:46 -0400
What is the pin Ezra is wearing in the clip?