November 19, 2018

Ontario PC Party sides with Tanya Granic Allen on gender identity sex ed class

David MenziesMission Specialist

David Menzies interviews Tanya Granic Allen, the former Progressive Conservative leadership candidate who successfully won a battle to promote the removal of liberal ideology from the classrooms of Ontario.

The interview took place at the Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario convention held last weekend.

Allen describes the closed-door proceedings at the Convention that ended with the PC member voting to support her proposed resolution that supports the remove of "gender identity theory" from classrooms. The Ontario sex education curriculum that was, in part, co-authored by a convicted child pornographer.

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commented 2018-11-20 17:18:58 -0500
Andrew Stephenson religion is part of the world , so we can make them aware of that at school as well then??
commented 2018-11-20 17:17:44 -0500
Andrew Stephenson you support the state treating them like property and parents are held accountable so they get a say and it is their kid, a body is not property either. If a kid wants to be Superman then a parent has to teach them they cannot fly. What part of that do you not get?
commented 2018-11-20 15:33:46 -0500
If Doug Ford were smart and had the back bone I thought he had, he would give ALL parents a voice. He said parents were not properly consulted, and that was why he was going to repeal it. He has been bullied into changing his mind. The leftie moral master-baiters always scream the loudest and make the most fuss, so they seem to get their way more often as its easier for lazy, weak politicians. Its time for the rest of us to make some fuss. We need a referendum.

Doug has done a lot for Ontario but that does not let him off the hook here.
commented 2018-11-20 15:26:53 -0500
Or my children’s right to natural sexual development free of adult interference and agendas.
commented 2018-11-20 15:21:23 -0500
Look Andrew, by nature it is an aberration. This gender confusion exists as a blip in the general population. It is being taught as if it every other kid in the class has it. It is being normalized and even celebrated. Kids are trying it on for size because what it is for MOST kids, is a FAD. I am not saying gender dysphoria doesn’t genuinely affect SOME small percentage of people.
I am saying that it is NOT common enough to be making special laws for the government to decide when an under age child should begin hormone treatments or cut off their penises or to be teaching it as a normal sexual alternative. Parental rights are natural rights and the government cannot take them away.
God made man and woman and Liberals made up the rest of the genders was meant as jab to omnipotent liberal/cultural Marxists. They don’t get to play god with my kid. Do what you will, but the government is attempting to take away my rights as a parent to care for and make decisions for my under age child as I am first and sole guardian.
You don’t like that. Tough. I don’t like what you are forcing on me. Its authoritarian. You either think that is a good idea or you have no knowledge of history.

We have had this argument before. I do not want to have it with you again. All I want is to have a right to not have my children be exposed to it in the schools or have any procedures begun against my will or behind my back. Simple. This is globalist mandated crap and our governments, and unions, are complicit in this scam. I will never accept this attack on my rights.
commented 2018-11-20 13:39:16 -0500
After reading the comments from all knowing Andrew and its idiot sibling with all the fake names, one can’t help but feel a lot less smart.
commented 2018-11-20 13:22:59 -0500
“It is simply not the right of any government and I will not recognise any of it nor would I allow it for any of my children.”

It’s not about what you want to allow. It’s about what’s best for the children. Hostile parents who disallow their children to be themselves are a major issue for LGBTQ youth, and one of the reasons why their rates of homelessness and suicide are so high.

" I just don’t want it taught as some kind of objective truth to my kids. What’s not fair about that?"
It’s the objective truth that nonbinary individuals exist. You may disagree with the underlying rationale, but whether or not it’s true, those kids will encounter them, and nowadays likely at the grade school level.

“God made man and woman.” I don’t believe in the existence of a God who has causal influence on the world (can’t rule out an impartial observer, but at the same time there’s no way of knowing what such an observer’s motivations or judgements actually are). Evolution generated, in general, two participants for sexual reproduction. It did not achieve perfection in the processes generating that, merely the same “good enough” compromise that left us with wisdom teeth and pelvises that babies barely fit through.

“Alberta Maga commented 9 hours ago
My kids my choice.”

Children are not property. They are their own individuals and should be aware of the world, even if certain aspects make their parents uncomfortable.

“Edward Jobin commented 14 hours ago
Liza I haven’t seen any science presented defending the multi-gender position n evebeing promoted by the far left. The closest thing to an argument is the observation that some people are born with both sets of plumbing which when raised fails to address that in every instance only one set of equipment is functional.”

Gender fluidity is an observation. It occurs. We don’t always know why, but it does.

No, people are not born with “both sets”. It’s embryologically impossible since male and female organs are derived from the same precursor organs. The genital folds develop into labia, unless the “male” signal causes them to fuse and form a scrotum instead (humans are female by default, and male is a derived state). But, what if they only fuse partway, resulting in genetic males who have anything from a slighlty misplaced urethra (hypospadias – which is extremely common) through to essentially female external genitalia. Very likely such events can also impact brain development. Knowing that the male state is derived from the female state, and that it doesn’t always quite work right, is actually pretty strong evidence for it being something of a continuum.
commented 2018-11-20 12:48:44 -0500
Doug has gone back on his promise.
commented 2018-11-20 12:39:13 -0500
Nick? fck off.
commented 2018-11-20 12:38:16 -0500
Celine Dion another Canadian to be ashamed of. Gawd the reputation of our country is being dragged through the UN SWAMP.
commented 2018-11-20 11:42:49 -0500
liza Rosie,

I give Ezra credit for assisting in the takedown of Faith Goldy. It needed to be done and I am happy that he did the right thing. She is absolutely a racist white supremacist as Ezra has acknowledged.
commented 2018-11-20 11:38:01 -0500
liza Rosie,

Tanya’s views are in the vast minority in Ontario. The backlash against this was huge all across Canada actually. So much so that even Doug knew that he would be fucked if he put this through, which is exactly the reason why he folded so quickly. Let’s not pretend that Tanya has this massive following. She doesn’t – she’s fringe.
commented 2018-11-20 09:27:37 -0500
There are only 2 genders. Believing you are something you are not is delusional. Go ahead and play dress up all you want, we don’t care. We DO care when you think you can force the rest of us to play along with your delusion.
commented 2018-11-20 04:20:57 -0500
Andrew Stephenson what rights are you talking about? Sorry but your ideals being taught to other peoples kids are not a right! Do you have any kids? If not then apply your abortion argument, no kids then no opinion and My kids my choice. Or does that suddenly not apply??
commented 2018-11-20 04:18:23 -0500
Liza Rosie good response to Andrew, however she thinks the state is God and that it can force her ideology onto people. She also supports compelled speech while claiming disagreeing with someone is akin to forcing your views on them. Then she comments about rights like a complete hypocrite.
commented 2018-11-19 23:47:12 -0500
Ron, you need to get your facts straight. Faith said no such thing to no such person. Wrong person, wrong comment and all out of context. Don’t get me started on the take down of Faith Goldy. As for Ford, please. He was fully aware of Tanya’s feelings and comments and was fine until he was bullied. She was turfed out of a riding she was elected into and replaced with an ex liberal.
commented 2018-11-19 23:40:46 -0500
Just to be clear before I get ‘arrested’ under C 89, if my kid ended up with some kind of gender dysphoria, I would get them the professional help they needed. If my child’s sexual developmental journey ended in a preference for the opposite sex I would accept that. What I won’t accept is the government interfering or directing what should be a personal journey unhampered by adults.
commented 2018-11-19 23:39:55 -0500
Liza I must apologize whole my laptop is in for repair I am typing on a teeny tiny keyboard of my iPod. I meant to write humps his master’s leg not jumps but the point still came across.
commented 2018-11-19 23:35:26 -0500
Liza Rosie said, " She was the peoples choice. Doug threw her over to pacify cino bullies, maybe even Scheer himself. "

Liza, Ford was forced to drop her because of some seriously bad comments on her social media History. In such a case the leader has no choice or the whole Party goes down.

A good example is Ezra was forced to dump Faith for saying to Richard Spencer, " I salute you." Even though Ezra responded fast and tough, the MSM still wants to take away Ezra’s platform.

Having said the above, I think the world of both those women. They both have a future.
commented 2018-11-19 23:33:30 -0500
Liza I haven’t seen any science presented defending the multi-gender position n evebeing promoted by the far left. The closest thing to an argument is the observation that some people are born with both sets of plumbing which when raised fails to address that in every instance only one set of equipment is functional. The other argument is the observation of male dogs humping male dogs which begs the question which gender is the dog which jumps it’s master’s leg?
commented 2018-11-19 23:20:34 -0500
“Scheer probably had a little chattey-poo with Doug about this, just like he did with the Francophone university, about damaging the brand. "
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You are probably right about that though Andrew.
commented 2018-11-19 23:12:43 -0500
I came across this ‘teacher’ on someones twitter feed. I won’t say the name of the person who has identified herself in such an passive aggressive manner, almost like a threat, but I wanted to share it here. Parents need to realise the mindset of these people who think they can interfere with the path of your child’s natural development.
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This Teacher describes herself thus,
‘Teacher, learner, student voice advocate, uke wannabe.
“Your sons and daughters are beyond your command”’
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She is middle aged, unmarried and childless I presume or she would have mentioned it in her description. It makes my skin crawl that she thinks she has a right to that kind of interference. Your sons and daughters are beyond your command?
commented 2018-11-19 23:03:17 -0500
I’m glad you don’t have children Andrew, and so sorry you were let down as a child.
No person or government body has the right to parent children in the place of the parent. It is a natural right that the government cannot take away from parents unless there is child abuse (and not agreeing to a sex change in childhood or adolescence doesn’t constitute a valid reason for government interference). The logic of this seems so obvious to me that I cannot believe things have come so far. It is simply not the right of any government and I will not recognise any of it nor would I allow it for any of my children.
Fine for you but not for me. Its that simple.Why can that not be respected?

Andrew said, "The days of mandatory government certified gender identity is over. Deal with it. "

What gives you the right to dictate your ideology onto me? I’m not telling you that you can’t be gender fluid. I just don’t want it taught as some kind of objective truth to my kids. What’s not fair about that?
God made man and woman. Liberals made up all the other genders. Talk about ‘government certified gender identity’. What a screaming joke. Bloody hypocrites.
commented 2018-11-19 22:04:18 -0500
The days of mandatory government certified gender identity is over. Deal with it.

Scheer probably had a little chattey-poo with Doug about this, just like he did with the Francophone university, about damaging the brand.

“There is a national, aggressive assault on parental rights here” What about the kid’s rights?"

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Space Moose commented 4 hours ago
Too bad Tanya got punted out of the party. Maybe she can run for the Bernier party?"

Bernier is not a social conservative and isn’t running on such a platform.
commented 2018-11-19 21:47:13 -0500
What Tanya is presenting is perfectly reasonable. Forcing junk science onto everyone to pacify a few legit confused is nonsense. What this bullying has proven is that more and more people are being brainwashed to think this is widespread enough to normalize in our schools. Keep it up and the numbers of gender confused will grow, and that’s the idea isn’t it?. I can’t wait for the law suits.
commented 2018-11-19 21:46:22 -0500
Yes it seems that Ford did fold because of the backlash. Too bad that the opinions of so much of the province are going to be disregarded.. I will remind, that Tanya Granic Allen won in her riding because the people agreed with her. She was the peoples choice. Doug threw her over to pacify cino bullies, maybe even Scheer himself.
What else is he going to cave on. This was an important promise. How can he be trusted now? He is ignoring the voices of at least as many Ontarian’s as he allowed himself to be bullied by. What about them? This should be put to a referendum. There must be a way to accommodate those who do not want this for their children. Having this forced on us is authoritarian overreach of government into family life.
commented 2018-11-19 20:32:44 -0500
Doug Ford folded on this due to the huge backlash. Tanya is a nutjob and I have no idea why she hasn’t been cut loose completely.
commented 2018-11-19 20:17:01 -0500
I agree Gary, he isn’t following through on what he said he would do. He was bullied to get rid of Tanya when he won the leadership and now he is allowing himself to be bullied again into reneging on his PROMISE to repeal and replace the sex ed curriculum and get rid of the gender indoctrination most parents find so uncalled for. Its the government interference that is the offensive part. Why should the government be forcing this sexualization onto all parents and all kids? The gender confused comprises of how many kids in reality?

Shame on you Doug Ford. I know the bullies are loud and obnoxious, but you promised!
REFERENDUM – let the people decide. Why are so many parents being ignored. Let them have their vote.