March 16, 2018

Ontario man sues government that's forcing him to choose “bad care or death”

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Host | The Gunn Show


An Ontario man is suing the government and their affiliated healthcare providers for violating his Vharter rights to life, liberty and security of the person, and for failing to provide him with medically assisted life.

Roger Foley is dying. The 42-year-old has a progressive incurable neurological disease called cerebellar ataxia, which makes it hard for him to move his arms and legs. He needs round the clock home care.

It’s getting hard for him to speak, but while the disease is taking Foley’s body, it’s not taking his mind, his positive outlook, or his will to live every day he has left to the fullest.

It’s that desire to live each day the best he can that prompted his lawsuit.

Foley says his home care workers have mixed-up his meds, given him food poisoning and have exacerbated his condition. He ended up in the hospital but they say he can’t stay there and, according to Foley, have threatened to slap him with an $1,800 per day bill if he doesn't leave.

But he says he can’t safely go home unless he has the ability to be in charge of his own home care.

Then the hospital offered Foley a second option as a solution to the stand-off over his care:

Since he’s terminally ill, he qualifies for medically assisted death.

Even the most libertarian types among us — those who are okay with euthanasia and want the right to do whatever they want with their own bodies — should be horrified that the province’s response to a man asking to be treated well is, “If you don't like it. you can always just drop dead.”

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commented 2018-03-30 01:55:12 -0400
This is modern government for you. Neglecting people here, but sending your tax dollars away to others.
commented 2018-03-29 22:43:49 -0400
A lot of people walking into our country plus the Liberal immigration policy to bring in elderly relatives of immigrates already here put far more pressure on our health care and non of them have paid in to the system . Many coming here are not screened properly . I’m sure Canadian don’t mind going to the back of the line . Not like the ones walking in that want to go to the front and will demand it .
I say if they want assisted suicide let them lead by example and go first .
commented 2018-03-23 01:56:52 -0400
Even if I were lying, you would still be fixated on whether or not I am still in university. I simplyrefer to my old professors as my professors. That is all. I have been out of university for years now.
commented 2018-03-22 23:22:23 -0400
No you idiot, you were clearly lying in the post I linked, or later posts where you claimed you are not a student; rather someone who has graduated University three times!!!!

Do you not claim English as your first language?!!!

Listen, I caught you in a lie….so, accept it and move on. Perhaps you can refrain from lying in the future.
commented 2018-03-22 19:32:08 -0400
So you have nothing left in your ammo stock, except to pick apart me on my misuse of tense?
commented 2018-03-22 18:36:42 -0400
Whatever Moose, if you have graduated University three times like you claim, you should know what a reader interprets when you post in what I am assuming is your first language. You posted in the present tense making it sound as though you have professors now and you would like them to be more like Rick Mehta, who the report was about.
commented 2018-03-22 01:47:16 -0400
It is incredible what you interpret as a lie. So I used the wrong tense when describing my professor. To you that is a lie. Furthermore, you had to dig up the page and post the link. As if that was going to somehow discredit me. Instead, it makes you come off like some fault finder.

Call me whatever emotion you want. You are the one that needs to dig up old comments.
commented 2018-03-21 16:29:32 -0400
Yep, I do skip some of your posts.

Bitterness and resentment are emotions Moose, I see a lot more logic & reasoning when I read what Rebels are posting, you don’t fall under this category.

I posted a link to back up what you clearly posted as a lie. My memory is what it is, and I get that you don’t understand how it works. (not being sarcastic)
commented 2018-03-21 16:19:30 -0400
You actually skip some of the things I write? This coming from the person who remembers every little thing I post, and then puts links up to those pages?

This is a political news web site. It is all about bitterness and resentment.
commented 2018-03-21 16:13:18 -0400
Oh wow,
You should have a look at some the drivel you spew on this site. Sometimes I read, it, sometimes I skip right over it.

Space Moose, your sarcasm is always front and center, can’t miss it! Ask yourself why you rely on it so much, do realize how bitter and resentful you sound? This is an honest question.
commented 2018-03-21 15:18:26 -0400
And has it ever occurred to you why I hold my positions on your religion? Just read the drivel your fellow christians here spew. Them and their endless sense of superiority. Look at me. I am a christian. My society is better than yours. You would be better off if you believed in christ. Look at how much society has fallen apart now that the presence of jesus has been diminished. That was sarcasm in case you missed it.
commented 2018-03-21 14:27:00 -0400
Yes Moose, feel free to go and exercise your free speech in a muslim neighbourhood, disparage away, let us know how that goes. Maybe the nurse will type up a post for you.

Free speech means you can post what you like, same for me. Christianity bashing happens all the time, it’s nothing new. I don’t threaten people with violence or try to coerce them into my faith, or waste time explaining why I have faith in the first place. Bigots don’t care to hear the answer anyway, and that’s fine. For the record, I have never thumped anyone with a Bible!

So, while you object to pulpits in churches, take a look at the metaphorical bully pulpit you and your fellow anti-Christian folks are fine standing behind.
commented 2018-03-21 12:06:19 -0400
And what ever happened to the conservative value of free speech? It is what allows people on the right to do things like comment on a religion that is not your own.
commented 2018-03-21 08:40:11 -0400
Bigots are bigots, disparaging Christianity is a safe pass time….now Moose, go and do this in the muslim community!
commented 2018-03-21 04:22:03 -0400
It is not sad at all. I think more people should speak up against your religion.
commented 2018-03-21 03:56:24 -0400
It is sad that you think so or feel the need to disparage.
commented 2018-03-21 03:32:06 -0400
Fine, then don’t go to church. I would love to see more people not go to church.
commented 2018-03-21 02:53:36 -0400
What you said was somewhat inciteful until you said this, “So go and squander your money on the church all you want.”
Pre conceived pre digested and defensive.
Expecting proof is also not even on point in the context of personal enlightenment, but keep trying.
Just so you know, I don’t go to Church.
commented 2018-03-21 02:38:36 -0400
For starters, you assume that I am a liberal. Last provincial election I voted for Pallister. And I am upset that he is making Manitoba pay a carbon tax. Last federal election I voted for Harper.

I am not against the guy in the video. If our tax dollars are going to health care, then the least the caring Ontario government can do is provide adequate services.

Did I say there should be a utopia? No, I did not. What I am saying, is that things should make more sense, if there is an all mighty god that cares. Don’t assume that I have never looked into religion or myself. Every time I have tried, I have come to the conclusion that religion is unable to prove itself. So go and squander your money on the church all you want.
commented 2018-03-21 02:04:59 -0400
“How much a government should provide care is a different story all together. "
It’s not how much as much as what kind. The guy is asking for the funding so he can have a say in what kind and the quality. The government of course will never give that to him. He is told to shut up or die, his choice.
commented 2018-03-21 01:53:00 -0400
If you did some investigating on your own instead of stubbornly sticking to a few pre digested opinions you might understand that any faith is acquired through self knowledge and growth. Its a personal trip and if you embark on it you may find out a few important truths. God gets a bad rap because people expect utopia on earth. There is much offered but people like you are just mad because it is not what you think you deserve.
commented 2018-03-21 01:51:42 -0400
I presume to know everything about you that I need to know… You’re a liberal, you worship money and somebody else’s life don’t mean that much to you. Tens of hundreds of millions of dollars thrown against the wall, endless vacations for your hero, laundered money for billionaires and money for terrorists but not enough to help a dying man.!! No… I pretty much know everything there is to know about you.
commented 2018-03-21 01:46:07 -0400
Don’t assume you know anything about me to use against me to further your point. I am not afraid of saying that I think a person should have a choice on how their life ends. In the case of the gentleman in this story, I know that he is not looking at medical assistance in dying. And that is fine. How much a government should provide care is a different story all together.

And I have no idea what the first base metaphor is supposed to be.
commented 2018-03-21 01:40:09 -0400
I feel sorry for you Space Moose. You can’t even get past first base.
commented 2018-03-20 21:36:08 -0400
It’s incredible how you keep deflecting and avoiding… This man is not ready to nor does he want to die.!! Kill yourself anytime you want to but you shouldn’t have to use that as option B until it’s your choice not the government’s I find it just amazing how much bravado comes from the healthy but when it’s your turn your wish it wasn’t that way.
commented 2018-03-20 21:29:46 -0400
When my health gets bad enough, you better believe I would want medical assistance in dying.

It is incredible how you defend god and the whole believiing n god argument. If god really exists and cares, don’t you think we would all know it?
commented 2018-03-20 20:46:02 -0400
Space moose a.k.a. Bob rock a.k.a. Jimmy da Silva…you 3 sound as one.!!! You guys are all starting to sound the same now.. I can’t wait until it’s your turn and you’re not ready to die but you’re not getting anywhere near the care that you paid for and desperately need, the government will tell you “if you don’t like it take option B”
Then we will hear you cry like a girl but by that time nobody will be listening.
You will be pleading to God to ease your suffering and make you whole but your pleas will fall on deaf ears because all these years you never believed in God so why at that time should you he believe in you.?? You need God he doesn’t need you that’s where the free will thing begins and becomes to be understood.
commented 2018-03-20 19:29:28 -0400
Resorting to the free will argument to explain suffering? That is a weak defense of the existence of god. If god exists and cares, then god can intervene.
commented 2018-03-20 16:24:31 -0400
Space Moose, for you to say the often heard argument that, if God was good or existed in the first place, he would have stopped all suffering, shows your absolute ignorance. May I suggest you either educate yourself or not use such lame points with which to counter all religious linked arguments. You don’t have to be a “bible thumper” as you disparagingly called people, to understand the basic premise of free will in the context of Christianity.
commented 2018-03-20 16:13:36 -0400
Rebelation Rebelation, “No, he should be suing them for simply not getting what he paid for (through taxes).”
I agree, but also for suggesting death as the alternative to his dissatisfaction with the sub par care provided by the government. It is against basic human rights to be forced to accept pain, discomfort, neglect or death. People should not be threatened if they have complaints. As far as I’m concerned he was threatened.