December 04, 2015

Throne Speech: Liberals' vow to "put a price on carbon" has Conservatives concerned -- and you should be, too

Brian LilleyArchive

It was practically a throwaway line in today's Throne Speech, but it has the Conservative opposition worried.

The Liberals are vowing to "put a price on carbon."

How will that effect ordinary Canadians, especially since many provinces already have carbon taxes?

Is Trudeau mulling a federal version too?

When I interviewed her after the speech, Rona Ambrose had many questions along those lines, and rightly so.

Climate change wasn't a big part of the Liberals' election campaign.

They focused instead on "the middle class."

Now they're talking about a tax that could hurt those Canadians the most and making climate change a top priority.

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commented 2015-12-06 12:22:25 -0500
“vehemently and ruthlessly crushed” Spoken in the true nature of a lefty!
commented 2015-12-05 22:39:27 -0500
First past the post is far more “rigged” than preferential balloting. If I like the Liberals but would be OK with the NDP, as it stands right now, I have to vote strategically and if I guess wrong, the Con candidate sails right up the middle even if he’s got very low approval.

The Conservatives stand to lose from it because the Conservatives happen to be quite unpopular with most Canadians. It’s only through an idiosyncrasy of FPTP that they can even win, when the natural “average” vote lies somewhere between the Liberals and the NDP.

Not that it matters. My point is more along the lines of how damaging it is to the Rebel that they ignore this. It’s probably one of those things the readership would be interested in, moreso than most other policies – which, in the present CPC-favouring electoral system, might actually be repealed one day if it fails. This ceases to be a possibility with vote reform, as a plurality of Canadians do support carbon regulations and they have the advantage in a representative vote system. Certainly far more important than gun control as currently featured on the front page, which is of minor interest to most Canadians (only about 7% of households own firearms)
commented 2015-12-05 20:39:48 -0500
I’d say we actually owe a small dept of gratitude to Sean and Andrew for de facto admitting that Liberals know that adoption of the so-called ‘preferential ballot’ amounts to rigging future federal elections so the left always wins.

It’s on that basis that this must be fought right up to the Supreme Court to prevent it from ever being used in any election in Canada. A system for which it can be demonstrated that it simply rigging the result cannot be adopted.

To do so would amount to de facto dictatorship, and while that is Justin Trudeau’s stated preference for a form of government that works, to his mind at least, efficiently, it is contrary to everything Canada has stood for since 1867.
commented 2015-12-05 18:16:54 -0500
Expect to see much more in the way of various value added taxes that are immune to earnings. With personal and corporate taxes, people can only send Government’s money when they actually make money. With VAT taxes, Government’s get their money regardless of whether you’re making money, losing money or close to going broke. Expect to see a massive hike in CPP premiums next and why Ontario is forcing through the ORPP. Not surprisingly, Provincial Governments that are the most in trouble like Ontario, Quebec, now Alberta, are all firmly united with this nonsense to pay for their ridiculous spending.
commented 2015-12-05 16:38:42 -0500
the right hand giveth, and the left hand taketh away. oh ya, SELL THE CBC.
commented 2015-12-05 16:15:49 -0500
We know, for certain, “who’s bankrolling” the CBC, the Canadian taxpayers! And Trudeau, as promised, will be giving the CBC a $150 million bonus for their efforts to help get him elected!
commented 2015-12-05 15:04:19 -0500
Lieberals like Stephenson et al have hearts that are filled with arrogance, these days. The Good Book says “Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.” Being a saying from the Book of Proverbs, they’ll scoff. But one day, as sure as the sun rises, they’ll go down and we’ll be around to pick up the pieces…
commented 2015-12-05 14:43:10 -0500
Looks like another Socialist utopia coming up.
commented 2015-12-05 13:28:44 -0500
Andrew Stephenson – you are correct about the threat of preferential balloting. In a 1st, 2nd,3rd choice on the ballot and the party system stacked with 3 different flavors of communism and only one private sector, individual freedom party to chose from the odds will always favor the 3 similar parties. Unacceptable and if the Liberal proceed with this you know you are not fighting domestic Librano cartels but international communist influence.

Seems important enough to be mentioned to non-left voters. wonder why Rebel missed it?
commented 2015-12-05 13:28:32 -0500
I already pay carbon taxes, it’s not nearly the boogeyman it’s made out to be.

How are you going to stop it if you can’t ever win an election again? Hahaha. Swing and a miss, Peter.
commented 2015-12-05 12:47:34 -0500
Andrew, I am sorry you misunderstand but I am not surprised. The only one I hear “braying” is a jackass like yourself.

Carbon taxes affect every level of our income. The “election reform so the Liberals can stay in power” bill is not an issue at present. We will address that when they time comes. Justine “puff puff” Trudeau is going ahead with this carbon tax immediately, so it is a relevant issue.
commented 2015-12-05 12:00:51 -0500
According to SEAN PENSON, mocking God (but, would never consider mocking Allah or Muhammad), suggested “God sent Justin… to govern us”! How about “the devil sent Justin… to govern us”. Oh, I forgot; you don’t believe in either. Richard Dawkins, in The Blind Watchmaker, sums up the meaning or purpose of life as an atheist as follows, “In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won’t find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference.” Living a pitiful life of “pitiless indifference”, why do you care? You should be out eating and drinking and being merry.
commented 2015-12-05 11:58:55 -0500
You’re so busy braying about carbon taxes that you don’t realize that Trudeau’ vote reform policy is actually the biggest threat for the Right in this throne speech, as preferential voting will all but render conservative governments unelectable.

I realize who’s bankrolling this website and how that means you have to devote most of your effort to the carbon tax to keep the sponsors happy, but at the same time … you’re becoming so bogged down in this single issue that you’re losing the big picture. The lack of interest in the Ontario electricity story should be a huge red flag that you’re drifting down Sun News’ path and becoming irrelevant.
commented 2015-12-05 11:27:13 -0500
Imagine that! The Liberals, who had promised “open and transparent government”, vowing to “put a price on carbon”, by inserting “almost a throwaway line” in the Throne Speech! In the foreword to the Liberal party of Canada’s election platform, Trudeau trumpeted, “At its heart is a simple idea: transparent government is good government. If we want Canadians to trust their government, we need a government that trusts Canadians. For me, open government is effective government”. Just another “throwaway line”?
In his deranged election night anti-Harper rant, CTV’s Craig Oliver’s held up Trudeau as a paradigm of “integrity, trust, openness, tolerance, truthfulness”, and accused Stephen Harper as living up to none of those words. Oliver concluded his rant, “Now our job will be, my colleagues (that is, comrades) and I, to hold Mr. Trudeau to scrutiny”. Craig, time for you and your colleagues to get to work; you’re missing in action!
commented 2015-12-05 11:04:08 -0500
SAM YOUNG commented 8 hours ago
All the money the middle class saves on the tax break won’t make up for the carbon tax.
You forget that also mentioned were strengthening the CPP and EI programs.
Rest assured the piddly little income tax reduction will more than be made up for by these increases.
The 1st paycheque in January will be different than the last one in December. It will be lower.
That’s even before the effects of a carbon tax will be felt.
commented 2015-12-05 10:13:12 -0500
God sent Justin, with Pierre’s advantage advice, to govern us!
commented 2015-12-05 02:39:02 -0500
All the money the middle class saves on the tax break won’t make up for the carbon tax.
commented 2015-12-05 00:40:23 -0500
Sean exactly which parts of Europe that tax like that are doing great? Spain and Greece are not doing so well with their high taxes. Neither is Italy, Germany is doing better with lower taxes.
commented 2015-12-05 00:23:07 -0500
Sean still waiting for your excuse for the pine beetle and the huge amounts of carbon that was let into the air when the millions of trees had to be burnt. Of course you cannot answer like a pathetic child.
commented 2015-12-05 00:21:27 -0500
Don Cloud make us go into a corner loser. LMAO. Liberal twerps sure talk big on the net.
commented 2015-12-05 00:20:23 -0500
Sean Penson taxes came down under Harper, but others went up that he had no say in , and BS fees, and Europe has public private health mix , do you support that as well. And sorry the carbon tax was not revenue neutral nor popular, nor did it go to helping reduce carbon.
commented 2015-12-05 00:05:56 -0500
I can’t understand how anyone would want to be taxed and to even desire more of it that you already have, yet the socialists seem to love it. Am I being too mean when I say that they are a bunch of brain dead dolts?
commented 2015-12-04 23:54:09 -0500
Chris Kealey you don’t have to worry about freezing in the dark, JT will just whip out his F-18 he brought back from the middle east and drop parkas over Canada.
commented 2015-12-04 23:48:35 -0500
Sean… You really should “come up for air” more often from your basement digs in Vancouver!… The carbon tax in B.C. may be popular for those ninnies on Saltspring Island buying Elizabeth May her next round of drinks, but it certainly is not popular with anybody on a fixed income or who has to drive to work… Indeed, B.C. taxpayers have had more than enough of taxing as was clearly shown several months ago when the additional TransLink tax proposal for the Lower Mainland was soundly defeated… But hey; don’t stop “spinning” now… It is fun to watch…
commented 2015-12-04 23:37:44 -0500
It amazes how much taxation the governments need. Never do we hear a plan to reduce spending. We are getting very near the point of citizen’s rebellion against taxation, revenues will drop[.
commented 2015-12-04 23:22:55 -0500
" has Conservatives concerned " who cares. Now go back into your little dark corners and don’t come out for 4 years.
commented 2015-12-04 23:15:00 -0500
Sean obviously works in some way for the government, a foreign backed NGA or the CBC. Whatever he does, he does not work hard to earn a living.
commented 2015-12-04 22:09:14 -0500
I am looking forward to the ending of the First Past the Post system of voting. It means as of October 2019, no political party will ever win a majority government at the federal level in Canada again. The Liberals, Greens and NDP will work together, leaving the CPC in the wilderness. That, with a reformed Senate should make the plurality of Canadians very, very not unhappy.
commented 2015-12-04 22:02:27 -0500
I seem to remember Gerkof Justin mentioning a Better Deal for Pensioners during the election campaign. I bet I won’t here of it again.
commented 2015-12-04 21:55:38 -0500
I run an incorporated business. I see a lot of additional paperwork in my future.