October 05, 2015

Trans-Pacific Partnership: What it really means for Canada (Hint: Ignore what Mulcair says)

Brian LilleyArchive

It is 1988 all over again, with the left screaming about another trade deal and claiming it will strip Canada of all its sovereignty.

Haven't we heard this before?

I break down the Trans Pacific Partnership Deal which gives Canada enormous opportunities while protecting already sheltered industries.

Trudeau claims he's pro-free trade, but today Mulcair proved he just doesn't understand Canada's history, or its future.


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commented 2015-10-07 17:12:46 -0400
Having just watched this Video for the second time, I have come to the conclusion, ’Mulcair’s biggest asset is his Beer Belly’.
commented 2015-10-07 07:32:44 -0400
Bad link, results in a broken link.
Try here “”http://aimis-simia-cdic-ccil.agr.gc.ca/rp/“>http://aimis-simia-cdic-ccil.agr.gc.ca/rp/” and select report “D056 – Number of Farms with Shipments of Milk by Province”.
commented 2015-10-07 02:54:22 -0400
Anthony – I see any trade deals Canada gets into as primarily raw resource exports – little value added export- most of these deals have locked us into an eternal roll as hewers of timber and diggers of ore/oil.
commented 2015-10-07 01:04:02 -0400
Economist Ian Fletcher weighs in:
As I’ve explained before, international trade isn’t just harmony, it’s largely rivalry, and mercantilism is how the winners play to win. But we naively refuse to play that game. Instead, we have faith in “free” trade, we think free-trade agreements will save us, and we lose.

And if the purely trade aspects weren’t bad enough, the TPP is also a profoundly anti-democratic agreement which signs away our right to govern our own economy. Despite being nominally a “trade” agreement, it contains provisions which interfere with areas well beyond the bounds of trade. To wit, it would (credit to Lori Wallach):

• Limit how U.S. federal and state officials could regulate foreign firms operating within U.S. boundaries, with requirements to provide them greater rights than domestic firms.

• Extend the incentives for U.S. firms to offshore investment and jobs to lower-wage countries.

• Establish a two-track legal system that gives foreign firms new rights to skirt U.S. courts and laws, directly sue the U.S. government before foreign tribunals and

• Demand compensation for financial, health, environmental, land use and other laws they claim undermine their TPP privileges.

• Allow foreign firms to demand compensation for the costs of complying with U.S. financial or environmental regulations that apply equally to domestic and foreign firms.

Taken to its logical conclusion, this all ultimately amounts to the idea that the profitability of investments must be the supreme priority of state policy—overriding health, safety, human rights, labor law, fiscal policy, macroeconomic stability, industrial policy, national security, cultural autonomy, the environment, and everything else.

While there is no justification for going to the opposite extreme and allowing governments to ride roughshod over legitimate property rights, these agreements thus rigidly mandate market-based, property-first solutions to questions where societies must strike a reasonable balance between public and private interests.
commented 2015-10-07 00:50:54 -0400
The whole theory of comparative advantage which free traders base all of their arguments is full of flaws and defects. When competing with aggressive mercantilist nations who devalue their own currencies, subsidize industries, lax environmental laws, dismal workers rights, they will always have the “comparative advantage”. Also, it does not take into consideration the nations role in planning and nurturing industries which will benefit populations in the future. A good example of free trade in practice was the 18th century deal between Britain and Portugal. They signed a deal where England removed tariffs on Portuguese wine and Portugal removed tariffs on British textiles. Keep in mind that textiles were the high tech industry of the 17th century. As Britain was not a producer of wine this did not affect them. However, this killed the Portuguese textile industry. Also, Britain did not import so much wine as they were able to import from other nations as well so the Portuguese wine industry did not prosper. The devastation of the Portuguese textile industry went on to affect the rest of the economy including wineries where many collapsed. Even up to recent times, Portugal never really recovered and was not a player in the modern industrial world.

This is an issue that is not conservative or liberal but an issue of what is best for the Canadian people. Canadians stand a lot to lose.
commented 2015-10-06 21:32:23 -0400
Bravo Zulu commented – “As an individual citizen I seriously doubt the TPP will make my life better. Heaven knows free trade did not.”

I agree with you BZ as a manager it did nothing for me or my industry , it’s doing nothing for Alberta oil workers either – I smell a repeat.

I also concur with your assessment of Brinkman – maturation is needed – case of arrested male development.
commented 2015-10-06 20:14:12 -0400
Andrew arrogantly said, "Allow me to be a little bit smug. As an educated, liberal elite, this trade pact probably means that I will do better than ever.

That’s good, Andrew. We are all very happy for you.
commented 2015-10-06 17:22:13 -0400
If you say so Andrew.
commented 2015-10-06 15:27:53 -0400
Allow me to be a little bit smug. As an educated, liberal elite, this trade pact probably means that I will do better than ever. Not so much for the blue collar, rightish “working joes” that form the Rebel’s target audience. They’re liable to find themselves waiting in line at the soup kitchen as even more semiskilled manual work migrate offshore. I’d laugh, except I know fully well who is going to pay for all these unemployable right wing “working joes” to sit on welfare all day, just like the Righties at Kelloggs or ElectroMotive have been.
commented 2015-10-06 11:49:17 -0400
It is interesting, and would be funny if it were not so sad, to watch Tom Mulcair attempt to be intelligent in financial matters!

Here is a man who cannot properly handle his own finances (how many times has he had to remortgage his own home?) wanting to destroy the financial standing of a whole country with his inept, short-sighted, financial incompetency. Anyone who wants to vote for NDP ideologies given the incompetency and immorality of its leadership must be similarily mentally challenged!
commented 2015-10-06 11:04:10 -0400
The first thing we need to export is Mulcair and his 1920s mind set. He could go to his alternative Country, France.
There is a Link to ‘The Mulclair Deception’ at the top of this page. If you have not seen it yet, go look now.
commented 2015-10-06 08:48:56 -0400
Andy, it is not just the cheese prices that should go down, but the selection of types of cheeses will go up, along with other products. Then there is the massive new market to whom we can sell our products. This trade deal is a huge boon for Canada! Mmmmmm! More cheeses at lower prices …
commented 2015-10-06 08:11:39 -0400
Decided to watch CTV news to see what they would say about this and I was shocked. The reporter interviewed farmers and they said that it seemed to be a good deal. The farmer also said that they only had to give up 3 1/4 percent of the supply management system and the government will give the farming industry up to 5 billion for 10 years to offset that 3 1/4 percent loss. At the end of the segment the reporter said that the reason why the 5 billion is going to farmers is so the government can strip the supply management system within 10 years, where did that come from. These news reporters should be held accountable and when they out right lie then they need to be charged, the CTV/CBC system of biased agenda reporting needs to stop. Universities are now being sued, now it’s time for reporters to be sued for reporting out right lies, innuendos, and personal opinions, if you can’t give the news without slanting it so far left then be prepared to be charged at some point.
commented 2015-10-06 05:47:49 -0400
Not a peep about the trade deal Harper struck with Europe. It was bigger than NAFTA.

This is just MOAR MSM NUMBSKULLERY making its rounds again.

Socialist economic suicide – yep we need moar of this shit – FAWK!!!! And Canadians actually vote for these socialist retreads.
commented 2015-10-06 01:40:04 -0400
Oh… And I really don’t care whether a few hundred Canadian dairy farmers from now on retire as just millionaires, or multi-millionaires, as long as I could get some fairly priced cheese for me and my doggies’ nightly snack… Is that too much to ask?…
commented 2015-10-06 01:31:53 -0400
Thanks Christian for reminding us of the Bob Rae “anti-trade” years… Brantford Ontario was also devastated by the demise of Massey-Harris Ferguson, so much so that the two main one-way downtown streets were used as a prop for a Western ghost town movie… They only had to bring in the tumbleweed!… It did not begin to revive until Tim Horton’s built their new no name/no brand, yet plain in sight, “frozen yet fresh”? doughnut factory on the outskirts along Highway 403…
commented 2015-10-06 00:42:37 -0400
You are right Bill, no one has read it yet and as Brian has said ‘the devil is in the details’.

Supply management is the exact opposite of free trade. If we insist on relying only on a domestic market, we will be like New Zealand in the 80’s. The only stuff that will move will be what is managed by a restrictive supply management board, and or subsidized by the government(like what wynne has suggested) to even out prices for consumers. No growth can happen in a stagnant climate like that.
We need more people to buy, we need more markets to export to. Its got to be weighed out, and we have to make sure we are getting as good a deal as we are giving. But by all accounts so far it sounds like this deal has the potential to boost our manufacturing, agri, as well as mining sector. I’m looking forward to the details.
commented 2015-10-06 00:27:01 -0400
Sebastian. Good idea bros! Especially when said policies are founded on junk science. The politicians have an obligation to do their homework, and to do so objectively (Duty of Care). If Ezra can figure it out, and you and I can get it, the politicians have no excuse!!

Rod. Without getting into all the specifics how I arrived at this, the left are born psychotic. It’s now a known fact they use a different part of the brain than the rest of us. Just try looking at them from the angle for a month. You’ll see what I mean. Just look at the arguments they present. The way they ignore – or worse – try to re-write history to avoid truth. The simple fact they seem incapable of learning. For example, Australia abandon their cap n trade for ruining the economy, Germany is going back to coal, socialist countries are all failures – yet, they insist on pursuing these avenues non the less. One has to have psychiatric problems to be like that!
commented 2015-10-06 00:04:24 -0400
I find it incredulous that ANYBODY can be so opinionated about a deal no one has even read.
commented 2015-10-05 23:25:55 -0400
Why is it that Mulcair doesn’t want free trade of goods and services but is in favour of free trade in refugees…… Another damn head scratcher.
commented 2015-10-05 22:48:25 -0400
Chris said, “$10 for a block of Canadian cheddar”

Really? You have a good price. More expensive here.
commented 2015-10-05 22:03:26 -0400
Hate to interrupt your little personal bashing party people, but on the topic of 3% dairy infiltration, go hard. I just cannot believe I have to pay $10 for a block of Canadian cheddar, and milk is totally out of control. Way past due that this industry has to face some competition. Sure glad I don’t have kids at home anymore that go through a gallon of milk a day. Poor Tom, does not have a clue what the regular family puts up with.
commented 2015-10-05 21:58:11 -0400
Tommy the commie seemed to love pointing out that Prime Minister Harper somehow failed us by “putting all his eggs in one basket”. Now what does he say after this? He beats his chest and declares that he’ll rip up this deal (without knowing any details about it) even as Prime Minister Harper is explaining that it would require to be ratified in parliament by whoever our next government is. What will Tommy and his commie pals do next? Hold a good old-fashioned book burning?
I’ll keep Harper. Tommy (and the boy) can keep the change.
Vote A-B-C
Anything But Change
commented 2015-10-05 21:49:22 -0400
@evelin Cooper – Agreed. It is unfortunate though because of the Media Party’s Devils Advocacy, Propaganda and Lobbying, most young people and those older but also apparently incapable of independent rational thought are brainwashed into Harper Derangement Syndrome and are willing Useful Idiots of the Socialist Parties of Canada.
commented 2015-10-05 21:42:45 -0400
@rod Tydeman – Do you remember the famous Liberal Quote that they are “Entitled to their Entitlements”. Left = Lazy, leach on society!
commented 2015-10-05 21:22:27 -0400
Guy Fraser: And yes, Guy, as you’ve noted, “Devil’s Advocate” is how so many Opposition members (and some news media) behave. Yet when all they can expound on is the failure of everything a Government does or proposes, it’s clearly just a means to get exposure, and as a consequence, how can one trust or believe the veracity of anything any of these “Devil’s Advocates” ever say. As a result, their value to the process of Government and the Nation seems to be strongly diminished. For me, the credibility of an Opposition Member would increase dramatically if he or she ever had the integrity to say, “yes, I agree, that specific plan or Program of the Government is what we needed and it works well, and is to be commended.” But the Devils Advocate culture would brand them political traitors or weak. That’s not how their self-defeating game is played.
commented 2015-10-05 21:17:37 -0400
What about the ability for companies to sue governments for laws that harm their investment? Anti-pollution laws or other labour laws like it?
commented 2015-10-05 21:07:52 -0400
Why does there even have to be a left? Are we not all adults? How is it an educated, rational adult could be so naive? The key word is “rational”.
commented 2015-10-05 20:42:01 -0400
I can remember Bob Rae being made an honorary citizen of Buffalo, NY due to the businesses and jobs that moved from Ontario to there due to his taxes and related policies. In her book “Underground Nation”, Diane Francis discussed Massey-Ferguson doing this and they received all sorts of angry, threatening phone calls over their move from Mississauga to Buffalo.