April 15, 2015

Transgender washrooms at Humber College: What do students think?

Marissa SemkiwArchive

Humber College LGBT students are pushing a "safe, inclusive washrooms" campaign, to accommodate transgender students.

The campaign poster reads:

"If you’re in a public washroom and you think someone’s gender does not match the sign on the door, follow these steps:

1. Don’t worry about it.  They know where they belong."

But how comfortable will that make everyone else feel? 

I asked students what they thought. 

Watch how some responses changed after I added some important information to my question.

Tell us what YOU think in the comments!

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commented 2016-04-19 00:34:35 -0400
ask older women!
commented 2016-04-16 03:29:51 -0400
I am a graduate of Humber College and I am really shocked to know that this institution is running ahead of the train to accommodate what seems to be a minuscule percentage of it’s students. With all the sexual attacks reported in the past I would be very uncomfortable to use washrooms at night with some freak dressed like a woman and peeing like a man. You can kid some politicians but you cannot kid nature – men are physically stronger than women and even dressed in female rags still are twice as strong as any woman. Scary, to say the least, and an opportunity for sexual predators to prey on innocent.
commented 2016-04-14 14:02:32 -0400
First of all sorry for my grammar, i know it is far not perfect, but please read: There is the fact: NOT exist thats kind chromosome disorder when someone couldnt made decision which sex got. In a birth everyone able to know what are. have some chromosome disorder which shows up then, but those disorders completely could prove then. If someone a same male, and female when born that we called hermaphrodite, but their parents made a decision then what kind of raise for the baby, so it will comfortable with both gender (because a same proportion). this is chromosome disorder. Another chromosome disorder is opposite of the previous. This is the X0 type which is not male and not female. outside look like female, not even hide testicles because not enough male hormones to got male, but also no ovaries either. Some hormonal disorder to, which is caused by some hormonal effect in embryonic time 7-13 weeks. Those babies could be male outside sex gender, and inside female sex gender, or opposite BUT!!! this disorders is exist in the birth time, so some physiological evidence of the real gender inside the body. They are the pseudo hermaphrodite. The female pseudo hermaphrodite sometimes also called: morris-syndrome. So NOT even exist kind of hormonal, or chromosomal disorder which is effect some biological male want to be a female. It is also NOT cause by the brain difference, because many of us (like me) have brain function as a male (actually i used a both side no dominant side, and Im a real female at all.. so this is social development problem, not biological. Also there is the another question: transgenders and transvestite (which sexual interest is still females). How could we make different of just the look who is the transgender, and who is the transvestite???
commented 2016-02-17 20:34:52 -0500
No, no, no, no, no….it’s a perfect platform for all sorts of predators. Women in the washroom are very vulnerable. So, nooooooooooo! I’m a woman so if an unknown man comes into the washroom or changing room or whatever, why should I be the one left feeling uncomfortable. What gives that person the right to violate my right to be comfortable in a place of vulnerability? Why are his feelings so much more important than mine?
commented 2015-04-21 17:23:32 -0400
Well, under certain circumstances we could just smack them over the head with our purses…(and most of our purses are lethally heavy) …but just make sure the zippers on your purse are closed before you do this… and do a couple of practice swings before you try this, keeping a can of flourescent orange spray paint handy in your purse… (as if we needed to carry MORE STUFF)…I can just picture the scene with the “newly decorated” person fast tracking it down the road… Who thought the public toilet would become such an incomprehensible place…no more a place of pensive serenity, it seems!
commented 2015-04-21 17:23:28 -0400
Well, under certain circumstances we could just smack them over the head with our purses…(and most of our purses are lethally heavy) …but just make sure the zippers on your purse are closed before you do this… and do a couple of practice swings before you try this, keeping a can of flourescent orange spray paint handy in your purse… (as if we needed to carry MORE STUFF)…I can just picture the scene with the “newly decorated” person fast tracking it down the road… Who thought the public toilet would become such an incomprehensible place…no more a place of pensive serenity, it seems!
commented 2015-04-17 19:13:01 -0400
Who has the right to the most discomfort?
Women need to remember how to scream bloody murder!
commented 2015-04-17 11:01:03 -0400
Everybody should see this clip!!!!!!
So true SO TRUE.
commented 2015-04-17 02:46:05 -0400
The politics of peeing. Give me a freakin’ break!!!!!!!
commented 2015-04-17 00:24:43 -0400
If I happen to be using a public women’s washroom and another person comes in and whips out a penis I will scream loudly and call the police. I don’t care what gender they think they are.
commented 2015-04-16 23:55:07 -0400
Totally stupid < If they have not had the operation to change them totally to that gender then stay in your own bathroom > This is not safe for the females in their own bathroom with a male / male parts in our bathroom . Has no one thought of the word RAPE in your own bathroom < Unless it is a handi-cap adult/ child person with / mom / dad / caregiver they have no business in the females bathroom . Some males will take advantage of that transgender thing just to rape / enter the female bathroom. I guess if some male comes in to the bathroom while i am in it i will go back out and pee on the floor as they have not supplied me with a safe / proper washroom < Wynne / Loonie Liberals have totally lost their minds and have not respect for our rights and do not care about our safety.
commented 2015-04-16 22:31:14 -0400
I can see where this is heading. And it won’t be good. So i am just suppose to allow , standby, and put up with some dick who goes into the same washroom as my wife, daughters, or granddaughters, and it am suppose to be all good and comfortable with that , and trusting about the whole deal. I don’t think so!!!! Does anyone else see the problems coming here???
commented 2015-04-16 21:32:49 -0400
As a father, I am very uncomfortable with the idea that some guy can put on a dress, tell people he’s a woman, and then just walk into a women’s washroom when my daughters are in there. How do I know – and how does anyone else know – for sure that this guy isn’t just trying to gain access to women in a vulnerable situation to attack them? The answer is: we don’t. And as long as we don’t, it is the responsibility of society to err on the side of caution. The bottom line is this: men’s washrooms are made for people with penises. If the person in question has a penis, that’s where he, she, it or whatever you want to call that person, should go. If the person has a vagina, then they go into the women’s washroom. Base it on biology, not some alleged sense of identification. I can put on an ape suit tomorrow and start eating bananas but that won’t make me a gorilla. Reality is what it is.
commented 2015-04-16 20:36:59 -0400
I still like my original idea.
Remove gender from the equation (thus making the issue gender neutral).
Replace it with anatomy.
Let people call themselves whichever gender they wish, then remove the signs from washroom doors that say, or infer, “Gents” and “Ladies” and replace them with signs that say, or pictogram, “Penis” and Vagina".
commented 2015-04-16 20:24:44 -0400
Because I can see where this train of thought is heading and I want clarification: If a ‘person’ with a penis, who identifies as a woman, decides to enter for example a female change room at a fitness centre, undress, use the bathroom, shower etc. the same change room my wife and daughter use, there is no cause for concern and I am simply supposed to take this person at their word that it is fine and they have no ill intention?
commented 2015-04-16 19:53:27 -0400
Absolutely that this proves about the fear students have for standing up for themselves!!!! That is what society has taught our young people. LGBT has won the day because they instilled fear into society, by say to them, either you agree with what they want or you are a homophobia. Pretty sickening I say. Society in large must get a grip on themselves and grow a backbone. I have no problem saying what I need to say to anyone and I don’t care if your from LGBT or not. I’ve been called many names over the years, but that tells me more about you then about me! I will not cower or be shamed by anyone. I bow to no one!!!!!
commented 2015-04-16 19:46:21 -0400
Sick and tired of this stuff. I totally agree with Lesley Spence they are forcing us with a specific agenda and I also support the Boundary violation as mentioned by Dorrie Ratzlaff. What else is coming our way to make them happy and feel NORMAL. Special parking space? Ontario is slowly gliding down a path that remind me of an old French Movie called ‘’La Cage aux Folles’’
commented 2015-04-16 17:42:46 -0400
Leena Gouin : Are you saying Japan, which is socially decades ahead of us, has an issue with this?
So much for me taking you seriously.
commented 2015-04-16 16:26:03 -0400
Okay, I was getting tired of this debate so I went looking for credible science. I was able to find some credible info on the Genetics and Anatomy of the range of Human Sexes. Biologically there is a spectrum of genetic and anatomical differences in 9 classification including Typical Male and Female. I knew about 4; Male, Female, Ambiguous and Androgynous. I assumed that Transvestites were and extreme form of Ambiguous Genitalia. Here is a good article for those who are interested in facts :
When it comes to sexuality the science is not very scientific from what I could find. On one side you have Religious people saying there is really only Male, Female and Homosexual but on the LGBT… group you have anything is not only acceptable but should be tried and promoted. The Religious group believes that copulation and raising children is the primary goal but the LGBT… group believes that your own pleasure is the only consideration regardless of what anyone else thinks. I was not able to find any good Psychological Papers developed using scientific research.
In my personal opinion what you do behind closed doors as long as it does not harm another person or inanimate object is fine, go fill your boots but in public, act like a civil human and keep your sexual proclivities to yourself like the majority of the public does. When it comes to education … BE AGE APROPRIATE and teach kids to be tolerant but cautious and patient. Sexual activity can cause children severe trauma and is usually harmful to them physically and emotionally. Teaching kids in Grade 6 about STDs, Genetic and Anatomical variations seems reasonable if the parents agree, but that complete abstinence is the safest means of avoiding STD’s. Good, emotionally mature parents should be teaching their children about sex and sexuality but the school system needs to cover the basics for those who are too immature to teach their own children but should never promote the “any thing goes LGBT…” curriculum.
commented 2015-04-16 14:41:19 -0400
No Lesley Spence it is about acceptance, and the majority of people accept LGBTQ as people! It also doesn’t mean I as a person have to believe in their values or belief’s just as they don’t have to belief in my values or belief’s.
commented 2015-04-16 14:02:04 -0400
The LGBTQ mafia is wildly out of control, especially in Ontario. This isn’t about tolerance and it never was. It is about forcing everyone to heartily approve of a demented and vile agenda.
commented 2015-04-16 13:41:47 -0400
Well said Donald Allen, may they could just use the family washroom which are already in place. It will also keep the cost down as they won’t have to make another washroom.
commented 2015-04-16 12:55:07 -0400
i think it’s not so much about making people “feel uncomfortable with feeling uncomfortable” or “fear of being politically incorrect”, which are part of it, but the real underlying things is “boundary violation”…these people use invasion of the person’s integrity, that is, implying that you are weak, or browbeaten if you actually feel like a “boy” or a “girl” as nature has made you, and that if you’re “heterosexual” this is some kind of weakness…they work on undermining your personal integrity, which is why it’s so important to them to break down all personal privacy, starting with the washroom, … i predict they will eventually find a way to extend this boundary violation into the very privacy of peope’s homes AND their relationship with family members, such as parent/child relationship, even this will have “new rules” imposed, on threat of that relationship being broken if you don’t comply. s
commented 2015-04-16 12:42:33 -0400
You don’t see any problems with this?
commented 2015-04-16 11:10:41 -0400
For all you idiots talking about making one bathroom with stalls for everyone…are you stupid or something? Children also use these washrooms and we have enough children being victimized by grown ups. Go live in Japan if you want communal washrooms!
commented 2015-04-16 08:18:06 -0400
By being a minority you can completely overwhelm the majority , who for the most part just want to go about their daily business, including going to the washroom. And make no mistake, the minority class are not asking , they have gone far past that point. They “Dictate” to us how we should behave , what we can say, who and what we can believe in religiously. Schools are no longer places of learning . In Ontario they have become indoctrination centres. You as a citizen and parent are not deemed capable of raising your children. From David Suzuki scare documentaries to this new repugnant sex training , the kids are exposed not to your values and beliefs, but theirs.

So what is the solution if you think this is a problem? Well we have to stop being the silent majority. We have to become engaged . Where the left are “activists” , we have to become “PROACTIVISTS”.That means at home , at your church, wherever. And particularly with your children. Don’t let them brainwash your kids.
commented 2015-04-16 08:03:26 -0400
If it has a penis, it is a man, even if its brain is in another place. LGBT seem to be confused as to what gender they are, they should just look between their legs….ok…have they got it now….
commented 2015-04-16 07:03:20 -0400
I would say that as long as she does not start pi""ing in the sink it would be fine. They probably sit anyway…and women have stalls…Now if he came in…why couldn’t he just use a stall in the mens washroom. I’m starting to not understand why there are these washrooms.
commented 2015-04-16 03:46:20 -0400
If five women are in a washroom while a supposedly transgender man comes in, why should one man’s discomfort override, trump and supersede five women’s discomfort, fear, and disgust? We have to seriously take note of predators who would take advantage of that newly minted opportunity, as well. I would say that was the elephant in the room. No Pun intended. Women are in serious danger with a policy like that and the entire staff at Humber should be fired for supporting this insane move. And, anyone who disagrees and says nothing should also be fired!
commented 2015-04-16 01:08:03 -0400
Can’t do it Nicole, just can’t. Shouldn’t have to, won’t. No accommodation is necessary.