May 02, 2017

Troll Watch 3: Tommy Robinson vs. Quilliam

Tommy RobinsonShillman Fellow

After the Guardian published an article calling me a “white supremacist,” I decided to find the author and ask her why she thought it was OK to call me that.

This journey led me to Quilliam, a “counter-extremist” organisation in London where the author was employed as a full time senior researcher.

When we stepped into the office we were immediately attacked both physically and verbally.

Quilliam has since published a press release about what happened.

Watch the video and see for yourself.

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commented 2017-05-05 03:44:57 -0400
wow the rebel really rocks imagine this started from one persons idea, after sun news was cancelled to become this huge franchise of conservative news around the world it’s in Canada,USA, UK and now Australia.
commented 2017-05-04 23:48:16 -0400
correction: Immigration gone wild FROM incompatible countries = frustration and anger.
Allan not Allen.
commented 2017-05-04 23:44:51 -0400
Dan Mancuso, that is a really good point, its kind of depressing though. Trying to get conservatives to agree on everything is about as easy as herding cats. What is the answer to that conundrum!

Allen, I didn’t think I attacked Carole either. I was making observations in the context of the article using her own description of herself. I never uttered the ‘r’ word, but oddly enough she did. Why you were dragged into it is beyond me. I don’t know about you, but I have been called many things in my life but ‘PC’ isn’t one of them.
It’s a good thing my Montreal born husband didn’t know I didn’t like Quebecers.

I can understand being ticked about being made to feel our ‘white privilege ’ is showing all the time, however that doesn’t make me want to generalize about all non whites oppressing me. I am much more worried about Islam oppressing my way of life, and by the looks of Quebec these days they have good reason to be worried about it too. Immigration gone wild form incompatible countries = frustration and anger.
commented 2017-05-04 12:48:26 -0400
Carole, I said nothing about you at all, so I’m not sure what you took as an insult. You however, took liberties by saying I hate Quebecers. And yet, as you say, you know nothing about me.
commented 2017-05-04 12:28:02 -0400
I found the CAROLE MASSÉ /LIZA ROSIE dialogue very interesting.
I found myself supporting, or at least understanding both ‘sides’ – more or less.
What’s interesting about it, is the left all use the same talking points from the same playbook. This homogeneity of ‘thought’ makes it easy to organize and implement leftist policies – especially with zombies…
The right on the other hand arrive at their ideas through the study of life through the lens of the reality of life! They’ve all come to it honestly. Many of the most ardent are ex-pat-lefties!
And therein lies THE PROBLEM!
Good luck tying to organize the right to fight against the self-destructive, anti sovereignty agenda of the very well organized and indoctrinated lefty/globalists. Besides, the right is generally out there working all day, too busy fulfilling their responsibilities and duties and working to pay the taxes to have the time to organize.
Personally speaking there are some views some conservative minded people hold that I CANNOT get on board with…if I can’t accept some of these ideas then how is the right, in general, going to save ourselves, let alone our own country!?
commented 2017-05-04 03:36:12 -0400
Another awesome video. Keep them coming, Tommy!
commented 2017-05-04 01:18:17 -0400
Carole, I thought I was very careful to be civil. It was not my intent to insult, but I could not in good conscience let your comment pass without a counter. Maybe ‘white supremacist’ has a different meaning in French Canada than it does in English Canada.
As far as hating Quebec. I lived there, married a French Quebecer and have many friends and relatives there. That hardly qualifies me for ‘hating Quebec’.
My conscience is clear when I look myself in the mirror Carole. I don’t judge people by their race, its the ideologies that I have a problem with.
commented 2017-05-03 20:30:41 -0400
One of my favorite moments was when Tommy confronted the gentleman at the beginning of the video outdoors and asked how would you like it if I called you an Islamic extremist in a major magazine. This was a very honest human moment when Tommy was able to cut through the propaganda and rhetoric and speak from human to human. It all comes down to treating others the way you want to be treated. One other thing I thought was note worthy was they were all so afraid of editing (perhaps because that is what they do) but I think the rebel has been very forthcoming about presenting the unedited version so no one can claim the rebel is spinning it for their own advantage.
commented 2017-05-03 19:52:15 -0400
Has anyone verified a statement made from South Africa Politicians? I know it’s a bit off topic..But it all intertwines..doesn’t.?!
commented 2017-05-03 17:23:31 -0400
Did you notice that Abdul, or whatever his name is, near the end of the video called Tommy an islamophobe. Very revealing as to who’s running that rag of a paper. Anyone disagreeing with commies/islamofascists are white supremacists, Nazis, racist, islamophobes etc. Words, lying words, from the pit of hell and the devil himself meant to destroy.
commented 2017-05-03 16:24:02 -0400
Tommy, good for exposing that communist paper and confronting them but you must be careful. Those goons probably have backing from people who aren’t very nice and maybe dangerous (antifa, islamofascists, terrorists). Might be safer if you try talking to these types outside of their offices and one on one. I wonder if you could sue them for defamation of character or slander and destroying your property or would this be pushing it.
commented 2017-05-03 13:32:23 -0400
Allan and Lisa, I would also like to add that your judgements and insults on me are worthless since you have no idea who I am and what I stand for. You seem very happy to live in a multi racial society but you, the English Canadians, have always hated and despised the French Quebecers. Maybe you should look yourself in a mirror.
commented 2017-05-03 13:18:03 -0400
Allan and Lisa, I am not a racist. However, being whites, we are attacked by all the other races that we have welcomed into our countries, including blacks, and not only by muslims or islamists. It is as if we, who have put into reality the concepts of liberty, equality and rights, the democracy, and with great loss of lives and struggle and suffering, we are now being demonized as white evils. Because somewhere we are responsible for the poverty, corruption, killings, everywhere in the world and now we have to pay for it. No country has been able to build what the West has built. If this is what white supremacy means, I am sorry but I am a white supremacist because I too have contributed to a better standard of living in my country. And that with many sacrifices that most would not even dare to think.
As for Ben Carson, as far as I know, he doesn’t live in my city and he is an exception, like it or not. I remember people in my organization insisting on hiring black people. They went through 3 persons, one after the other, none being able to do a simple job with efficiency. You are both in the politically correct which I am not. I am white, have had great success with hard work, very proud of it. If this is racist, I answer too bad. Hey, I’m in Quebec and we even wanted to separate from the rest of Canada to preserve our language and our culture. In my youth, we were fighting with our fists the anglophones in the streets. Now my language and culture are on death row with the mass immigration that we are under, and it is a disaster, close to a crime, for me if you want to know.
commented 2017-05-03 11:35:14 -0400
Good evaluation, Liza. It’s not about race its about islam.
commented 2017-05-03 10:57:22 -0400
Carole Masse I think Ben Carson might not agree with you, in fact I’ll bet he could run circles around most of us, you included. As far as IQ is concerned I am aware of some studies which have been kept under the radar for obvious reasons, but your gross generalization, makes it sound as if you don’t accept people of other races. If you want to talk about IQ, (and work ethic) consider the Japanese, Chinese or Koreans, they are heads and shoulders above us. The optics of your comment are not good and I would hazard to guess, it is attitudes precisely such as yours which moved Tommy Robinson away from the EDL . Tommy wouldn’t agree with you either. Have you checked out the colour of many of his friends?

As Tommy does, I embrace a multi racial country. However, I myself do not embrace a multi cultural one. I believe a unity of culture, morals and ethics is a necessity to a cohesive and peaceful society. Supremacy is nothing to brag about in my opinion. In fact, it is that very sort of omnipotent supremacy which makes me despise Islam.
commented 2017-05-03 10:39:27 -0400
They make the claim that Tommy’s message attracts extremists and yet the real irony is when we make the note that the Koran contains passages that attract extremist interpretations and thereby attracts extremists supported by teachings of radical Imams we are denounced as Islamophobic. I do not believe in white supremacy. I do not hate Muslims or think they are all terrorists. I simply think mass migration is terrible mistake when you are taking a culture which still has many adherents who hold extremely violent and misogynistic beliefs which they have demonstrated that they are willing to act upon and that our government’s lack the resources to monitor it and have chosen rather to demonize anyone who exposes this extremely reckless mistake that has put the public safety directly in peril. Often we hear the chastisement from the left not all Muslims are terrorists. I agree. I say that myself but that does nothing to address the problem then how are we to know when admitting people into our country who is and who isn’t? Many governments are so anal retentive they don’t even want us to ask people immigrating to our country if they share our values. And people wonder why we worry about political correctness run amuck.
commented 2017-05-03 09:04:18 -0400
Tommy Robinson….Rebel balls in action!
commented 2017-05-03 07:39:55 -0400
They hide and lie.

Cannot stand being brought up short with the truth.

Tommy – loved this one – well done!
commented 2017-05-03 06:48:23 -0400
Staying very objective, I have to say some things. You approached them very calmly. They asked you to wait. You got in on your own instead, which was wrong of you. Yes, you should’ve been a bit calmer but they didn’t really contribute in a good way. They tried to force you and your evidence out of their office, using very obvious physical force. They didn’t answer the questions and the author basically twisted her own words and was not very honest. I wouldn’t say that Tommy Robinson did exactly the right thing but watching the video, everyone would see that Quilliams explanation is totally biased, exaggerated and far from the truth. As to the “white supremacy” thing; I wouldn’t discuss on whether Tommy Robinson is a white supremacist or not. That’s not the point. The point is that the author denied having accused him of being a white supremacist. Let’s read that part of the article again. It’s very obvious and needs alteration or an explanation with apologies, if calling him so was not really the intention:

“That the far right has moved from the fringe into the mainstream demonstrates the massive support that white supremacist movements have attracted from digital natives. Their online followership often exceeds that of mainstream political parties: with over 200,000 followers, Tommy Robinson’s Twitter account has almost the same number of followers as Theresa May’s.”
commented 2017-05-03 03:50:11 -0400
A young small girl, not a woman, without any experience of real life and without in fact a real job, is accusing publicly white people like her of being white supremacists. Please Tommy, tell her on my behalf that I am a white supremacist, and very proud of it. I succeeded in my career because I worked more in one year than her in 10. And no black, brown, or whatever colour in my city would have been able to do the sacrifices I made to succeed or would have had the IQ to do it either. So she can go to hell with her bs. It is the white supremacists who built the west and the prosperity she enjoys in her basement job.
commented 2017-05-03 01:47:09 -0400
Dirty, stinkin’, lyin’, two-faced hypocrite, cowardly MSM scum, assholes!
They all need to be culled…
Keep bangin’ it home Tommy, their own BS will hang them in the end!
commented 2017-05-02 23:26:26 -0400
LoL Tommy, I bet that female who wrote the article Peed her Pants when she saw you walk in the door.
Hope you make them pay for the Camera.
commented 2017-05-02 23:01:30 -0400
You’ve gotta love he left. They are spouting off all this BS about love trumps hate and oozing with compassion and tolerance until they face someone who simply questions them. Then the real left shows it’s fangs. I’nm not sure what the laws are called in England but I hope this weasel gets charged with assault and destruction of property. Possibly theft as well. Defamation would be the icing on the cake.

That is why they are doubling down on their BS accusations.

The good news is that the left likes to over use their words and widen the semantic range to such an extent that they lose their power and effectiveness. Which, ironically, is exactly the opposite of what they are attempting to achieve. Like the use of anything with a suffix of ‘phobia". It doesn’t make it more heinous it makes it meaningless.
commented 2017-05-02 22:54:09 -0400
Tommy – file a private charge!! I’ve urged you to do so before, you’ll make national headlines, which will help promote TheRebel, get the story out, and they’ll be a lot more respectful in the future!!
commented 2017-05-02 22:46:45 -0400
Watch yourself Tommie you’re dealing with degenerate dissolute bolsheviks here, they will lie and fabricate criminal charges – the best way to have slandering red guard snowflakes explain their defamatory remarks is in discovery when you sue them.

Tommie, get a good civil action lawyer and start actions every time this happens – think of the number of these lying bolshie rags you can shut down with law suits addressing their libelous out put.

BTW – we need to research this leftwing disinfo cell – bet they are funded by Soros.
commented 2017-05-02 22:45:28 -0400
Tommy – I think you need some Hells Angels security!! They don’t take shit from the devil himself!
commented 2017-05-02 22:44:35 -0400
@Edward Jobin….the trick is…just don’t let the media or academia define vocabulary and you won’t be burdened with what Winston (the hero wannabe in 1984) (oh and note the reference to the dictionary authority) called “doublethink”.

I have reached a point where I am willing to resort to grunts and ASL if that’s what it takes to float above the bullshit that academia has turned our language into.
commented 2017-05-02 22:36:25 -0400
What is far right about wanting to live relatively free of terrorist threats? Like we did say 20 years ago
commented 2017-05-02 22:35:17 -0400
These smear merchants know full well you cannot prohibit who is attracted to you and supports you. Like it or not we cannot stop white supremacists any more than they can stop some of the far left extremists who are attracted to them. They are suppose to be professionals who can differentiate that and if in doubt check with the person about their views before character assassinations that are only being hyped for political purposes and are doing a grave disservice to the public and truth.
commented 2017-05-02 22:16:33 -0400
These people fail to respect the fact that careless comments by the press have allowed Tommy to be the subject of threats and put his family and those who associate with him at risk. That is not responsible journalism but propaganda based sensationalistic smear based tripe.