April 11, 2017

Trost's motion defeated: Meet the clueless Conservatives propping up CBC

Brian LilleyArchive

Conservative Party of Canada leadership candidate Brad Trost tabled a motion to privatize CBC, but it went down to defeat. 

Shamefully, some of his fellow Conservatives loudly opposed his motion, and praised the failing state broadcaster in terms that made them sound more like Liberals...

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commented 2017-04-13 01:28:40 -0400
JACK…How much did Hillary win by again?

Easy to say you don’t give a shit if cbc was Fox News North….unless it actually happened. Would love to see your hypothetical come true. Enjoy your new neighbors Mr. progressive.
commented 2017-04-13 01:28:40 -0400
JACK…How much did Hillary win by again?

Easy to say you don’t give a shit if cbc was Fox News North….unless it actually happened. Would love to see your hypothetical come true. Enjoy your new neighbors Mr. progressive.
commented 2017-04-13 00:21:14 -0400

Because the vast majority of Canadians are liberal. CBC is actually catering to most Canadians. It’s the very reason why conservative news fails in Canada and there is no demand for it beyond a very small demographic – primarily in Alberta.

If conservative content was so in demand, don’t you think CTV, Global and the like would give Canadians what they want? All they care about is making money and liberal content is where the money is.
commented 2017-04-13 00:03:33 -0400
Allan Peterson,

Because I know conservatives. You are the definition of hypocrisy.

If the Canadian government was funding Sun News or The Rebel, conservatives wouldn’t be saying shit about that funding or the need for the CBC to also provide a liberal perspective.

The bottom line is that conservatives don’t want to pay for something that caters to most Canadians.
commented 2017-04-12 19:24:01 -0400
ANONYMOUS….How do you propose infiltrating the leftist liberal enclave that is the cbc. No chance. The only balance they know is liberal balance. What you propose works well in a fairy tail, won’t work here.
commented 2017-04-12 18:40:42 -0400
All the time – Privatize the CBC. – this is outdated conservatism

How about use the CBC and make it truly balanced by :

hiring conservative journalists, actors, directors (who are blatantly discriminated against) and have shows, like the Fifth Estate, CBC, conservative documentaries etc promoting conservative viewpoints or import programs like Jail that shows the real effects of drug use
commented 2017-04-12 16:53:28 -0400
State broadcaster? Are they serious? Shouldn’t state run broadcasters only exist in Communist regimes? How can a “conservative” support such an Orwellian institution?
commented 2017-04-12 15:28:11 -0400
ART VANDELAY commented, “Same kind of stupid thinking from Harper, who should have turfed the CBC”.
In an interview that Ezra Levant had with Brad Trost on February 17, 2017 [Brad Trost: Time to privatize CBC (and why Harper didn’t do it], Trost explained that the reason that Harper never got rid of the CBC was that there were “too many chocolate soldiers around the cabinet table who when they felt a little heat would melt.” Sadly, seems much the same today.
commented 2017-04-12 14:28:16 -0400
Same kind of stupid thinking from Harper, who should have turfed the CBC and even threw his conservative base under the bus by allowing another vote on gay ‘marriage’ while in a minority position (although the Supreme Court and their creative way of redefining the constitution illegally did somewhat force his hand). This was the usual until Trump came along. Liberals like Wynne and Trudeau can ram through any socially extreme agenda with nary a whisper of opposition from conservative politicians.
When conservatives are in power suggest, something as wild and extreme as balancing the budget and all hell breaks loose. This is, of course, directly due to the MSM and unions, both of which are slowly dying so maybe this will be corrected in time. I would warn any ‘centrist’ conservative that you may soon be going the way of the dodo bird as well. I will say, however, I would bet anyone dollars to doughnuts that if they privatized the CBC, the Supreme would pull some BS ruling out of their collective asses to block the sale. See, the CBC propaganda is a right every Canadian needs, cheap power from Hydro 1 is not.
commented 2017-04-12 13:43:45 -0400
Who would they privatize to?? The reason the Conservatives lost is because they put all of the media in the hands of the left and far-left. There are only a few companies that control everything you hear, read and watch. For example, here in Calgary, Shaw owns both newspapers, numerous radio stations, a TV station, provide cable and internet service, production facilities and more. One Shaw family member is at the top and whatever he says, goes. Don’t kid yourself, the days of the sanctity of the newsroom are long gone. Calgary newsrooms even do remote broadcasts for advertising revenue (University City). The CBC needs to be dismantled and done with. It would only be taken over by Bell, Rogers, Shaw or a combination of those. After all, this is 2017…right Justine? The CBC has outlived it’s reason for being.
commented 2017-04-12 13:20:48 -0400
Delegitimatizing the CBC…the only viable solution?
As DEREK WILLIAMS, et al, does below, just keep digging up the facts, throw them out there and pile them up…after a while that pile will start to stink so bad, even lefty/liberal zombies will start to notice…well some of them.
Ridicule and contempt, shower the CBC with well earned ridicule and contempt!

LIZA ROSIE commented 3 hours ago
“…set the CBC free.”
Charming. A proactive catch phrase possibly, for the ‘convince the useful-idiots to defund the CBC, campaign’.
Good point about foreign money…scary implications!
commented 2017-04-12 12:08:11 -0400
So conservative minded people have to raise over a billion dollars for exposure to counteract the free advertising and propaganda that we get from the CBC .
I called the Conservative Party and told them I will withhold my donation until they get their act together and come up with a policy that makes CBC at the very least a politically balanced entity.
commented 2017-04-12 10:59:56 -0400
JACK CARTER….Give me a break, moron. If the cbc was far right and getting the huge public funding and largess from the tax payer you would be the first one squawking and show that you are the real hypocrite. Also according to your asshole sidekick on this topic, the cbc is right leaning conservative.
commented 2017-04-12 10:46:47 -0400
What happens if we set the cbc free. Could foreign funding find its way into their coffers to keep them going? That is if it hasn’t already. Not sure if having NO control over the propaganda machine is the way to go , as much as I revile the cbc a total defund may be more dangerous. It definitely needs some extreme tactic to put it in it’s place. Very tough talk, semi defunding and/or making it against the law for any media company in Canada to accept any foreign funding ? One thing for sure we shouldn’t be forced to pay for their lousy lies, sloppy reporting and make work program.

Excellent post Bill Elder.
commented 2017-04-12 10:43:36 -0400
Jack, how are we hypocrites for something that is a a hypothetical on your part? It hasn’t happened. It is complete conjecture on your part. Therefore we can’t actually be hypocrites- only hypothetical hypocrites.

As for the fringe- truth is not determined by taking a vote on it. So the leftie majority ma be, and certainly is, wrong. We are not about to turn turtle and compromise our views to go along with the crowd. Too many adults in Canada are giving in to CBC and media peer pressure because for the last 30 years that has been all they have heard thanks largely to the $1.5 billion extorted out of their pockets. The Rebel is one of the few conservative voices in the country. I of one am thankful for it even if I don’t always agree with the views presented.

So give up on your lefty proselytizing.
commented 2017-04-12 09:42:46 -0400
@ Michael Scanlan
Air Canada was privatized in 1988, with the passage of the Air Canada Privatization Act – Bill C-129.
commented 2017-04-12 08:20:22 -0400
I guess there would be no Tragically Hip. Tragic.
commented 2017-04-12 08:13:23 -0400
Give me a break.

If the CBC was far right, none of you would say a thing, but because CBC actually caters to the majority of Canadians in the this liberal country that is Canada – you don’t like that. It’s not CBC’s problem that you are among the fringe.

Absolute hypocrisy.
commented 2017-04-12 05:28:33 -0400
The CBC is a partisan organization. The people who want to watch the drivel produced by the CBC should fund it on their own dime.
commented 2017-04-12 00:30:08 -0400
Good analysis of Dopes in Canada 101, Bill.
I am so tired of all these self righteous busy bodies. Do they have nothing better to do than hassle people who’re out in the bush enjoying some legal activity?

“We’re just going to take a look at the guns, so we’re just going to be inspecting to make sure that the guns are legal, right, there’s serial numbers, there’s PALs, all that sort of stuff. So it’s just to make sure everybody’s following the rules.” Since when is any of this their business? Aren’t thy supposed to be managing wildlife and tracking down poachers and that sort of thing. Who made them the all-occasions firearms police?

Time to cut the budget. Then listen to them whine that the wildlife is in danger when in reality they are bullying and virus signalling by harassing law abiding gun owners involved in legally and morally allowable activity. I wish t every Canadian were a gun owner. It would a much better country to live in. Instead we get these arbitrary and nonsensical laws administered by self-important pompous asses.

E.g.: Can’t own flechettes in Canada. They extend a shotgun’s range to 200 yards. So what? Any old rifle will shoot 200 yards and then some. My brother used to call this “The Sinister Shapes Act”. Some know-nothing bureaucrat saw something on movie once that made him weak in the knees so he legislated it out of existence.

What really ticks me off is being treated like a child because I don’t have a badge or uniform. As you pointed out, Bill, lots of these buffoons are clueless and then treat us like children. Makes me despise liberals and their Maugrim henchmen ore every day.

Maugrim for the Uninitiated From The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe:

“Maugrim was born during the Age of Winter, and at some point joined her Secret Police. It’s possible that all wolves were required to join, as wolves legs are known to be moderately longer than those of other canids, which enables them to move swiftly, allowing them to overcome deep snow, making them the ideal candidates for her forces.

Over time he rose to the position of police captain, which was no doubt because of his contempt for his fellow Narnians and his fierce loyalty to the Witch. Under his leadership, he and his police force were feared throughout all of Narnia.
When Jadis learned that one of her spies, the Faun Tumnus, had seen a human and not informed her, she sent Maugrim to apprehend him.

He led the raid on Tumnus’ Cave where the Faun lived, and captured him, leaving his home in ruin. He also left behind an intimidating message there, so as to make an example of the poor Faun, and to warn those passing by not to make the mistake of betraying his queen."
commented 2017-04-11 23:30:23 -0400
Cut off funding to not just CBC, but also Air Canada.
commented 2017-04-11 23:16:24 -0400
A Prime example of the low quality of public information coming from the current degenerating CBC corporate welfare org.

CBC Disinformation on Canada’s Gun Laws Continues

The CBC, that government mouthpiece funded by 1.5 billion taxpayer dollars, continues to spread disinformation about Canada’s gun laws, this time in a spin piece titled, “Keeping Canada Safe: Guns in Canada 101,” published on the CBC’s website April 6, 2017.

T hey open with this inflammatory voiceover from one of the conservation officers:"Definitely a safety risk to have that many gravel pits and people shooting.” They offer no evidence to back up the claim. They just leave it hanging as if it were Gospel. If it were that dangerous, surely our hospitals would be overrun with patients suffering from gunshot wounds. They are not. At its 30-second mark, the CBC video features the graphic stating “One in five Canadians own at least one firearm.” That statement is bracketed with handgun silhouettes on both sides, implying all those Canadians own handguns.

While we appreciate the support of the CBC in ramping up the number of gun owners in Canada, they fail to tell the truth. Based on Canada’s current population of 35,530,532, the CBC’s claim that one in five Canadians owns at least one gun means 7,306,101 Canadians are licensed to own firearms.
If that were true Canadian gun owners would control every single federal election. The reality is far different than the CBC portrayal, of course. According to the latest RCMP statistics in the 2015 Commissioner of Firearms report, there are only 2,026,011 licensed firearm owners in Canada.

The video features two British Columbia conservation officers visiting people shooting at gravel pits near Slave Lake, or as the CBC characterizes it, “the notorious sport shooting hotspot of Slave Lake, BC.” The conservation officers are there to check on licenses: “We’re just going to take a look at the guns, so we’re just going to be inspecting to make sure that the guns are legal, right, there’s serial numbers, there’s PALs, all that sort of stuff. So it’s just to make sure everybody’s following the rules.”

It would be helpful if the conservation officers knew the law. Unfortunately, they do not. At the 1-minute mark, one conservation officer, Sgt. Todd Hunter, holds up a banana magazine and explains what would make it legal or illegal: “What would make it a restricted device here, a magazine, it would be unpinned and it would be able to hold more than five rounds.” A magazine capable of holding more than five rounds in a semi-automatic rifle is a prohibited device, not restricted as Sgt. Hunter states.
The video cuts to a shotgun magazine laying on the bed of a truck with shotgun shells placed on top of it. Officer Clayton DaBruin counts the number of shotgun shells and makes this pronouncement: “This banana clip or magazine appears to take more than ten shotgun shells so, sometimes people will order things internationally from the U.S. where the laws might allow these type of modifications and devices but in Canada we’ve got some restrictions that prohibit it, prohibit the amount of casings and shells you can fit into a magazine.”

The video cuts to a shot of the conservation officer’s truck with the following voiceover: “It is illegal to possess that magazine so I’m going to be seizing it from you.” What the video never shows is the shotgun that magazine is designed to fit. If the firearm in question is a pump action shotgun, then the magazine is legal and should not be seized. Only if the magazine is designed for a semi-automatic shotgun would it be a prohibited device and therefore illegal to possess.

Near the end of his discussion of what makes a firearm fully automatic, Sgt. Todd Hunter places his left hand over the barrel and uses his hand to push the firearm into the bed of the truck (A severely dangerous breach of firearms safety training)

The CBC video then shows a graphic stating:“Replica firearms present a special challenge for conservation officers.” That statement is followed by another graphic stating: “It’s not always easy to tell if they are compliant with Canada’s gun regulations.” Officer Clayton DaBruin then talks about a rifle as he examines it: “A lot of these new sporting rifles, most of them are in the non-restricted class, but there are a select few which mimic an army rifle. If they can be shortened, if they can be concealed easier, and so we have to confirm by use of the manufacturer and model number and the serial number that it is in fact a replica and is allowed to be out here on the forest service roads.”

Clearly neither the CBC nor Officer Clayton DaBruin knows what they are talking about. The CBC took Officer DaBruin at his word, not realizing the officer did not understand the difference between replica firearms, restricted firearms and prohibited devices.

The RCMP fact sheet for replica firearms states: “A replica firearm is a device that is not a real firearm, but that was designed to look exactly or almost exactly like a real firearm. Replica firearms are prohibited devices in Canada.”

Officer DaBruin then explains to the young man that he is pleased to see a trigger lock on his non-restricted firearm. "I checked your mags, that’s five rounds. That’s what I like to see even though it looks like a ten to fifteen round mag. I appreciate the trigger lock. Here’s your PAL and your driver’s license and you’re free to go.”

While Officer DaBruin is pleased to see a trigger lock on a non-restricted firearm, the fact is trigger locks are not required to transport non-restricted firearms. The RCMP’s Storing, Transporting and Displaying Firearms information page states: "Non-restricted firearms must be unloaded during transportation.”
The next time the CBC wants to shoot a segment to educate people about firearms and firearm law, we strongly suggest the CBC consult with someone knowledgeable about firearms and firearm law. It stops them from looking stupid and presenting misinformation to the public. All the CBC proved with their segment “Guns in Canada 101,” is neither they nor the people empowered to enforce Canada’s firearm laws know what they are talking about.

CBC Keeping Canada Safe: Guns in Canada 101: www.cbc.ca/keepingcanadasafe/features/guns-canada-101
Canada’s current population: www.worldometers.info/world-population/canada-population/
2015 Commissioner of Firearms Report: www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/2015-commissioner-firearms-report
Replica firearms are prohibited devices in Canada: www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/replica-replique-eng.htm
RCMP Storing, Transporting and Displaying Firearms information page: www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm
commented 2017-04-11 23:08:54 -0400
I usually don’t defend Harper as I’m still mad that he let the anti-pipeline Hippies push him around.
It was said that Harper wanted the CBC gone, and therefore asked his MPs their opinion . Morons like Van Loan started crying how much their voters liked the CBC. Harper then gave up.
commented 2017-04-11 22:59:55 -0400
Peter Netterville,

I have been saying this all along. A far right conservative is unelectable in Canada. The best you can hope for is fiscal conservative/social liberal or center left on some social issues.

You live in a liberal country, especially compared to America. When are conservatives here going to finally understand that?
commented 2017-04-11 22:48:35 -0400
There was a time when I believed Mothercorpse could be saved an fill it’s original mandate again, but no more – not from the purposeful deception I see routinely from this disinforatin engine.

Pull the public funding, let it survive on it’s merits – if there are any.
commented 2017-04-11 22:24:52 -0400
“You think it will be free to pay out union contracts of the CBC employees?”

You think the $1.1 to 1.3 billion a year that would be saved might cover any union contracts within a year or two, PETER?
commented 2017-04-11 22:14:44 -0400
Yep, nobody watches that rubbish anymore. I tuned out when some arrogant idiot named Mansbridge tried to tell me I’m a “phobe” or “ist” or “ism” because I adhere to strong moral values. Click. Never been back. thanks to the Rebel as an excellent source of actuality (remember, the physical world we all live in?) , not rainbows, lolli-pops and unicorns.
commented 2017-04-11 21:39:08 -0400
SALLY CITIZEN CITIZEN commented, “Let’s remember Kellie Leitch wants to defund & dismantle the CBC. She may be our only option if we want something done about the CBC”. Seriously,Leitch is the only option, when Trost has put forward an actual bill to privatize the CBC? Leitch still wants to keep some of the ‘good’ (?) parts.
commented 2017-04-11 21:28:16 -0400
Here is a summary of Van Loan’s speech excerpted from the Hansard:

CPC MP Peter Van Loan (York—Simcoe), speaking as the official opposition critic for Canadian heritage and national historic sites, began by citing the official Conservative Party’s position, as endorsed by CPC delegates at party conventions: “The “CBC-SRC is an important part of the broadcasting system in Canada. It must be a true public service broadcaster, relevant to Canadians. We will focus the CBC-SRC services on its mandates as public broadcasting services.” He then added “There are times when the CBC strays very far from those objectives. We are very fortunate, however, that the CBC is capable of being there”. (Ed: “There are times when the CBC strays very far from those objectives”?)

While subsequently going through a litany of examples of the CBC “not playing (its) role properly” and not doing “the kinds of things a public broadcaster should be doing”, he, nonetheless, concluded, “let me make it clear and understood by everyone that the party policy position is that we support a public broadcaster. We would just like the CBC to play the role of a genuine public broadcaster, bringing forward the literature, theatre, and music of Canada”. (Ed.: “We would just like the CBC” to please, pretty please “play the role of a genuine public broadcaster”?) Pathetic.