February 10, 2017

Trudeau Liberals deny tax break to troops: Soldiers in ISIS fight “not facing sufficient danger”

Brian LilleyArchive

There’s a popular bumper sticker among military backers that says, “If you won’t stand behind our troops feel free to stand in front of them”. Of course standing in front of them might put you in danger because we ask our military to stand between us and any threats we may face at home and abroad - like ISIS.

So why then is the Trudeau Liberal government taking money away from Canadian soldiers stationed in Kuwait who are part of the fight against ISIS?

This started last fall when 15 soldiers at an American military base called Camp Arifjan were told they would not get the usual tax breaks given to military personnel on overseas missions because the military said they weren’t facing sufficient danger to warrant the tax break.

Sure they were part of the fight against ISIS, sure they were stationed overseas for six months or more and sure they had been expecting that tax break, but a bureaucrat sitting at a comfy desk back in Ottawa determined they were not eligible for this tax break which can mean up to $9,000 over the course of a tour.

The soldiers complained and fought to get it back. Conservative MP James Bezan raised the issue and questioned Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan back on December 1 and thought it had been settled in the soldier’s favour.

It sounded like Sajjan was on side with the soldiers which is where I would expect him to be, but no.

The Trudeau Liberals and bureaucrats at the Department of National Defence decided to screw over more soldiers so instead of those 15 getting the tax break reinstated, it will be taken away from another 300.

Now you may be wondering why soldiers should be given a tax break that you don’t get?

Simple answer is, it’s a temporary tax break we give to them when we ask them to go anywhere with a raised level of risk - away from home. These are the people willing to take a bullet for you and offering a tax break so that the time away from hearth and home is a bit more lucrative should not be too much to ask.

But instead of fixing a small problem with a small number of soldiers, Trudeau and the Liberals made this bigger.

They can’t just pawn this off on payroll clerks at DND. This was a problem they knew about and in his answer, Minister Sajjan mentioned the finance minister and the treasury board - so three departments, three ministers were aware of what they knew to be a politically sensitive file and instead of fixing it, they made it worse.

I have no doubt of Minister Sajjan’s commitment to the troops and to our military, but I do question the commitment of the government he is serving in to the military.

It was well known that Justin Trudeau’s father didn’t like the military and reduced their funding in the middle of the cold war. Trudeau junior shows the same tendencies.

I expect this will get “fixed” after a public outcry and the government will say it was an error and they honour the troops.

Don’t believe that lie if and when it comes and instead remember their first instinct when they thought no one was watching was to screw over the soldiers.

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commented 2017-02-13 08:42:40 -0500
If anonymous would speak to vets from the other side, I mean former enemies, he would find out how much these former enemies respect the Canadian soldiers nad military in general.
Seems the only people that can’t respect the military are the liberals (who had no problem in deploying our troops to Afghanistan when baby Bush wanted some help) and anonymous.

commented 2017-02-13 08:38:59 -0500
I think Anonymous is simply another name for Trudeau.
The name should be changed to yellow bellied, Lilly liveried chicken shit scumbag.
That seems to describe anonymous to a T. Isn’t that the first letter in Trudeau’s name?

Dump Justin bin Trudeau
commented 2017-02-13 02:47:21 -0500
That’s just more military propaganda. They make you think they are more important than they really are.
commented 2017-02-12 14:01:26 -0500
ANONYMOUS bleated: “Soldiers are not special, and they should not be given tax breaks”

Interesting. My experiences with the persons who serve this country are quite the opposite! I suspect a personality issue here….and not with the those serving!
commented 2017-02-12 13:56:09 -0500
Liebranos fear the military, for our soldiers drawn from the general population, are more likely to stand between the people and dictatorship aspirations of the Lieberals and Trudope. We know from recent events the Police won’t! Besides, the Muslim Convert needs the money more for his personal expenditures, Yes?
commented 2017-02-12 02:51:25 -0500
Perhaps it is all the military treaty agreements that we have with others that is also the problem. If people from other parts of the world want to kill each other, then I say we should stay out of it. And what gives me a right to an opinion? It is my tax dollars. It was people that I know including myself that was getting mistreated by some asshole veterans.

Soldiers are assholes. Look at the harm that they inflict on people while they are on tour. And when they come back to Canada, they are assholes to civilians here. I am sick of putting up with this military shit.

During the holiday season, my work asked us employees to help put together a hamper for over seas troops. I am proud to say that I contributed nothing.
commented 2017-02-11 21:50:23 -0500
@anonymous…..Canada does not decide when and where our troops are sent. The UN and NATO does.

When the UN sends them on mall cop errands to places they played an important part in screwing up each soldier is issued 12 rounds of ammo that he is not permitted to load until ordered. On the frontier between the Greeks and Turks on Cyprus the UN made a big display of brokering a cease fire. Canadian troops were deployed on a disputed farm on the boundry line. As a showcase demonstration for the UN the farmer was told to return to his field . Braving Turkish land mines the Greek farmer drove his tractor into his field and Turkish troops opened fire on him. He fled for sanctuary behind the UN troops who had to chase him away because they got orders to stand down and not return fire on the Turks. It took discipline and restraint.

In Kosovo a Canadian army cook passed a sandwich out through the wire to a starving kid. A teenaged militia man with some obscure Serbo-Croatian-Bosnian grievance walked into the camp with an AK-47 and shot up all of the cooks pots and pans as a warning that no one of that starving boys ethinicty was to be fed or aided and everyone was under orders not to do anything about it. It took discipline and restraint.

At another location in the former Yugoslavia the Canadian Pioneer Infantry were sent to secure a bridge over a high river gorge that separated a community. People on one side were being prevented from crossing to get food and essentials. Again the Canadians were under orders not to engage the local militias. The Sergeant of the Pioneer Infantry approached the teenaged militiaman who was standing picket on the bridge armed with an AK-47,preventing people from crossing. He was unarmed and attempted to persuade the Bosnian to stand down. He refused. The seargeant disarmed him and threw his weapon into the river gorge. He then picked the teen up under his arm and carried him off the bridge kicking like a child.

On the edge of the Charlottetown Airport is an aircraft hanger that Veterans Affairs had to purchase to store thousands of files. When walking through it’s rows and stacks one cannot help but be moved by the fact that each and every one of them is a story of human tragedy…and of valour.

Anonymous, not only have you not told us your name, you have not told us what you have done that gives you jurisdiction to judge our armed forces.

So tell us….what is your story?
commented 2017-02-11 20:53:42 -0500
But as gentleman I can see that we agree to disagree.
commented 2017-02-11 20:52:38 -0500
But I might add to that, one should be able to see the elephant in the room..
commented 2017-02-11 20:51:40 -0500
A lesser man would say you should be afraid but it’s better to be informed than in fear.
commented 2017-02-11 20:50:29 -0500
I am not afraid… That is because like I am and people like me are informed.
commented 2017-02-11 20:16:09 -0500
You are fear mongering.
commented 2017-02-11 20:13:41 -0500
Anonymous… It’s not paranoia if it’s real..
Or should I say it’s not Xenaphobia if it’s real.!!
commented 2017-02-11 18:23:13 -0500
Some of you are very xeno phobic.

As for the military, they can use old second hand equipment for all I care. Let them use fifty year old choppers and guns.
commented 2017-02-11 06:34:14 -0500
Adding to that an immediate halt to any immigration into our country from areas in conflict and that is why any positions within the country at any levels of security or parliamentary positions should not be held by foreign born personnel as the risk for conflict of interest and national security is too great to risk.
commented 2017-02-11 06:25:03 -0500
I am in favor of a full military with all the complementary technologies and hardware and keeping up the maintenance and the technological advancements for that military through the course of time.
Notwithstanding that I firmly believe in my heart of hearts that we should not be involved in offshore conflicts allowing countries to settle their own problems and and differences while not getting involved in any of their politics.
However when innocent men women and children are being murdered by a rogue governments, intervention is necessary and must be administered with extreme prejudice to solve the problem in the shortest possible time returning stability to the area and then get out.!!
Furthermore and most importantly we cannot have foreigners born to other countries who may harbor ideas for the deployment of our military that is not in the best interest of the country’s being aided and assisted but more importantly would have the ability to use our military for his home country’s personal gain or if it was his place of birth who’s government was going rogue he may not have a complete desire for extreme prejudice in a military intervention compromising our ability to get the job done and perhaps unnecessary endangerment and deaths of our Armed Forces personnel..!!!
Any levels of national security should only be occupied by generationally born patriotic Canadians.!!
commented 2017-02-11 04:20:13 -0500
Anonymous better to fight them over there than have the battle brought to us.
commented 2017-02-11 04:16:33 -0500
Anonymous we need to fight terror and threats to our country , we disagree with sending money to support terror and abortion. When the hell did we ever say we do not want to spend money for good reasons? If we had no one to fight Hitler we would have been pretty screwed.
commented 2017-02-11 02:19:28 -0500
And why on earth do we need to give a shit about the world outside of CAnada, to the point where we need to send soldiers there on our tax dollar? Whatever happened to you people and your conservative values, that say the hell with spending money on other countries? If other countries are killing each other, I say let them. We do not need a military to intervene.

I apologize for the comment on refusing to wear a poppy. Instead, starting this year, I will wear a white poppy to show my protest against the military and unnecessary intervention in other parts of the world. And the best part of the white poppy? Military personnel can see that they are not respected. They are just a bunch of thugs.

As much as I don’t like Trudeau, I agree with him on this one. We need to have more policies to discourage people from joining the military.
commented 2017-02-11 01:04:40 -0500
Soldiers of the rank of sergeant major and below shouldn’t pay taxes ever..
The pittance they live on is pathetic and they are the grounds in the mud.!!
commented 2017-02-11 00:38:12 -0500
Damn! TruDope – maybe you ought to read the messages you got- better get a head start – seems your whore mothers love has befallen you!
Believe it or not the "referendum " is in – you are OUT!,,
commented 2017-02-11 00:30:14 -0500
Well – TruDope – now we are positively correct! You are a Treasonous Tyrant!! Walk amongst us you chicken shit POS! You make our Servicemen do your dirty shit & then you piss in their "survival " soup! You are nothing more than a French socialist POS! Move to Syria while you are able – scumbag! And don’t ever be heard telling the news liars how you love Canada – you have spent your last piece of bullshit! I hope Marine Le-Penn gets her chance to kick your nuts! Go admit yourself you sick tyrant!
commented 2017-02-10 23:39:12 -0500
Less military, more social programs – the mantra of the Left. It was particularly heavy in the 70’s. They criticized Harper’s spending on Military, not because they cared, but only for political points. Like all other groups and institutions, the Left couldn’t give a rat’s ass about any of them, other than how they can use them to achieve their utopian goals. Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette don’t forget!!
commented 2017-02-10 22:18:14 -0500
When Saddam was gassing the Kurds, and they fled into the mountains. We flew through a 1 mile wide corridor (with anti aircraft guns on both sides) to drop 40,000 lbs of food, per aircraft, to starving people huddled in small mountain camps. Sometimes a load fell onto a tent, and sometimes into the minefield next to a camp. Because the people were starving, they sent thier children to recover the food in the mine field. (because kids wouldn’t set the mines off)
Our aircraft meant life or death to these people, and there was never a peep from CBC. It was not important enough to Canadians watching CBC!
Have you ever heard a Liberal mention the great work we did? fFuck no! We just dragged thier sorry asses around for photo ops.
commented 2017-02-10 21:58:06 -0500
Geez. With the exception of one old fellow who was in the RCAF during WWII, every other vet I know voted for turdo la doo.
commented 2017-02-10 21:52:20 -0500
Trudeau Sr. hated the military! We were just a convenient taxi service for him, Jr. got the message!
While I was in El Gorrah Egypt, in the Sinai Peninsula, in the 80s with UNHCR, Chretien Liberals “re assessed” (read, “ELIMINATED”) our danger pay, and cut our water ration by 75%.
Screwing the military! Another great Liberal moment!!!!!!!!
commented 2017-02-10 21:30:49 -0500
Liberal times are hard times for our nation’s valiant protectors – do what I did years ago – Join a local legion branch and donate money and time to veterans affairs and active members who are going through financial hardship or equipment shortages.

The RC Legion is the nexus point for supporting our troops active or retired – the side benefit is you meet some very fine Canadians as well.
commented 2017-02-10 21:19:09 -0500
Since 9/11 – IN THE NAME OF ISLAM (SATAN): 32,794 Attacks, 210,161 Killed, 293,841 Injured that we know of.
commented 2017-02-10 20:38:19 -0500
Anonymous pretty pathetic of you. There should be benefits to being away, it is difficult , try it some time.
And i thought you were all about choice? If a woman wants an abortion health care pays for it even though it is not a health issue, so why should they get a break for being irresponsible , but soldiers should not for taking risks?
commented 2017-02-10 19:34:24 -0500
ANONYMOUS commented 2 hours ago;
It’s fine to make a point, even one against the house, they’re not going to censor you like the MSM…but you don’t need to be an asshole about it! Jerk-off.