March 03, 2016

Trudeau NOT working with provinces on carbon pricing: Ottawa knows best

Brian LilleyArchive

Do you remember how often we’d hear Justin Trudeau say he would be different than Stephen Harper when it came to working with the provinces? 

As far as I knew, Harper did exactly that, including at times working with Premiers who generally didn’t share his politics. But, for all his talk, it seems Justin isn’t doing that.

Especially when it comes to pushing his pet issue of climate change.

And it isn’t just Brad Wall he’s pushing around but even Nova Scotia’s Premier (a Liberal) and all three Northern Premiers.

Despite preaching a willingness to work with others and let them decide the best way to achieve the goals, it seems that when it comes to fighting climate change, it’s Justin’s way or . . . Justin’s way.

It’s about “how” we’re going to price carbon, not “whether”.

And “how” we’re going to do it, is Justin’s way.

Nothing says cooperative Federalism like, “Do as I say, or I’ll make you”.

He should be careful because that’s just the sort of action that could ignite a national unity crisis.

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commented 2016-03-11 10:39:18 -0500
Thank you Premier Wall!
commented 2016-03-07 00:14:19 -0500
The west already wants out, and if it happens it will be under Trudeau’s watch. On Facebook there are many western separatist groups with numbers in the tens of thousands of members. Trudeau and his boss Butts would do well to wake up because they are on the way to losing the country on the fire of energy unemployment, terrible economy and eco taxation.
commented 2016-03-06 00:26:48 -0500
William Collins, I’m all in. The Alberta and federal Marxist governments will soon re-ignite the western separation movement and this time, it will succeed. This country has sucked far too many billions out of the West in its wealth distribution policy. Ideally it would be a huge gain for the West if Quebec separated, but they have neither the courage or economic incentive to do so; they just bitch and whine and get their own way eventually. The political scene in Canada is going to undergo a major shift very soon, much like our southern neighbors. The separation of the West is becoming a hot topic that people are now discussing seriously. By the way William Collins, we welcome you to consider a move to our beautiful Western provinces.
commented 2016-03-05 11:57:09 -0500
Brad Wall for PM of the new country of Canada West, let those eastern bastards freeze in the dark. I live in eastern Canada, but would be one of the first economic migrants to a place of common sense.
commented 2016-03-05 07:25:49 -0500
where can i buy a black canadian flag? we need to symbolize these dark days.

thought he was going to legalize weed, he’s pissing off all the potheads that gave him his majority.
commented 2016-03-04 14:29:05 -0500
I’ll never understand why the Provences with the highest debt have more say in politics that the Provences that handle their debt more responsibly. It’s like having the children of your house hold handling your money and then you wonder why you lost your house. It seems the most irresponsible people hold the positions with the most responsibility. Makes me wish our politicians where more like Japan’s where if they act irresponsibly they kill themselfs.
Could you imagine JT and his cabinet lining up to jump of the roof of the parliament building? Now there’s an apology worth accepting. Not that JT and his party would ever apologize for how bad their screwing us right now.
commented 2016-03-04 13:03:21 -0500

I have always been a New World Order skeptic but now I am having some doubts.

It would seem that yourself and I have been reading the same articles, re the fixing of the elections. Lord Monkton comments on it in his Video,

.. “Our last year of freedom”. Fast fwd to 26 0t 27 min.

If you have not seen this video, it is well worth watching all the way through.
commented 2016-03-04 12:40:07 -0500
it’s probably time for bombardier to get another handout too.
commented 2016-03-04 10:27:55 -0500
So much for food. Its easier to control a starving population. Are they gonna tax us by how many times we breathe out in a day, next? Everytime a volcanoe erupts will our taxes go up. Who voted in this Dictator anyway?
commented 2016-03-04 10:06:09 -0500
@yvette LANTZ
commented 2016-03-04 09:22:15 -0500
Um…I don’t have any use for Carbon Dioxide…I’d prefer not to be forced to purchase it thank you.
commented 2016-03-04 09:19:17 -0500
Kelly Clark asked, “Question: Is there anything Alberta gets from Quebec we can ban/boycott.”

Bad attitude. Swears and insults. Condescending superiority attitude. Hate and anger while taking our equalization money to the tune of $10 billion/year.

Nothing that can be boycotted that I am aware of?
commented 2016-03-04 06:53:32 -0500
3.5 more years of this fkg idiot Trudeau – and a pending global economic collapse in the meantime.
commented 2016-03-04 01:18:40 -0500
Let’s do it Alberta and Saskatchewan with Brad Wall at the helm. Any one who doesn’t like it can go work in BC and either go under ground with the rest of the non paying tax people or work upfront and pay all those extra taxes. I think Alberta and Saskatchewan would be a match made in heaven as anyone I know from these provinces are hard working, moral and ethically grounded. We wouldn’t need to sponge off of government for the most part we all want to pay our fair share but also have some left over to fund our families and retirement. Maybe take a vacation here and there. Can’t stand buying into this farce of climate change for one second longer. Let’s just leave all the unicorns and fairy dust in Ottawa.
commented 2016-03-04 01:15:36 -0500
Yvette L… are correct about agenda 21. No sain thinking person with an inkling (there are 1000 inklings in a clue) would truly believe that this progressive crap is good for a nation and its citizens. Unless…..these people are getting a big payday secretly from those behind these scams and have been promised a seat at the big table. It is truly perplexing that those in charge provincially and federally can believe what they do is right or sleep at night for that matter.
commented 2016-03-04 00:59:53 -0500
Canadian mongrel…lighten up man. Don’t like it….don’t read it, just skip on by.

Justin’s diary….keep it goin!!
commented 2016-03-04 00:46:33 -0500
All the more reason to begin a Western Canadian sovereignty movement.

Canada has officially become a suicide pact. Time to kill it once and for all.
commented 2016-03-04 00:20:36 -0500
Thank God for Wall, the one ray of light in this country right now.
commented 2016-03-04 00:11:18 -0500
So when it comes to the Federal jurisdiction of pipelines he leaves it to the provinces and even mayors to intervene, but when it comes to the provincial jurisdiction of carbon issues he’ll stomp all over everyone huh? Nope, no hypocrisy here!!
commented 2016-03-03 23:59:53 -0500
Hmm, remember during the election campaign when Trudeau accused then PM Stephen Harper of ‘fear-mongering and divisive politics’ — it seems to me that since Trudeau came into power that the country is more divided than it’s been since the Meech Lake Accord.
commented 2016-03-03 23:26:10 -0500
After reading some of the other posts I think that everyone is forgetting that Pierre Trudeau was and baby Trudeau is a proponent of the UN’s Agenda 21 which was started in the 1960’s.

If you look at how quickly he gave the UN over 4 billion of our money for climate change and the rest of the spending that he has done since coming to power and what he has planned you can see that he is going to impoverish Canada and weaken its citizens so that they cannot fight this. The whole thing is about a New World Order…Global Government. Enrich a few and enslave the rest. Transferring power from elected hands to un-elected hands such as the UN.

Harper knew this and that is why he would not sign onto any treaties to do with the UN.

There were two holdouts against climate change and they were Canada and Australia under Tony Abbott. In 2014, Secretary David King, William Haig’s climate change ambassador said that " there are two holdouts, Stephen Harper and Tony Abbott. Don’t worry about Harper. There is an election next spring in Canada an we will get rid of him with the help of the UN." We did not have the electio util the fall but they smashed Stephen Harper with the help of the UN, unions and foreign funded environmentalist lobbyists. Abbott was ousted in late 2015, again with the help of the UN.

This has far reaching effects as Barak Obama is part of this as well.

Rachel Knotley is also furthering this agenda by going after the farmers in Alberta. This is all part of the plan.
commented 2016-03-03 23:14:23 -0500
No, no … don’t threaten to separate!
I don’t want to see all the people from Quebec flood into Western Canada and beg us to stay because they love us.
Oh … wait-a-minute … they wouldn’t would they?
commented 2016-03-03 22:59:47 -0500
I read the same CBC coverage and I just do not see the same issues that you seem to see on this. I think you are reading between the CBC lines here Brian and expressing your view with your own anti Trudeau, anti Liberal bias. Don’t get me wrong here. I do not like Trudeaup or believe in any of this climate change crap but, in his defence, he does seem to be open to provincial concerns and ideas. Even Brad Wall welcomed the opportunity to work with the feds. As he put it: “It’s no small feat to come to the consensus that we did. Recognizing that fact … that we don’t want a national carbon levy,” said Wall. “It’s one of the tools, it’s not the only tool.”

Also, Harper refused to attend First Ministers Conferences. This conference in Vancouver was the first Fed/Pov conference in 10 years. So in that regard Trudeaup seems to be a willing partner.

I also feel it is irresponsible on your part as a national journalist and radio announcer to be raising the spectre of western separation in a public forum such as this. I would feel much better in a class action law suit against the Federal and Provincial government regarding the Climate Change fraud being perpetrated by them onto us. There must be something in the Charter that covers this off. After all if it is a Charter Right for assisted suicide then there must a Charter Right protecting us against political buggery. This may be worth pursuing. Although I think I read somewhere that you cannot sue the government.
commented 2016-03-03 22:53:48 -0500
This is one post that I will make. I usually do not get involved but I like to read what everyone has to say. Justine’s Diary just cracks me up…love it. We should have a CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT. My husband and I have been saying that for a while.

We live in BC and Premier Christy Clark is right into this climate change fiasco. They are doing consultations with the people of BC but most do not know about this. I found out because I belong to the Canadian Taxpayer Federation.
Apparently David Suzuki wants us to go from $30/ton to $100/ton tight now.

Somehow we have to fight back.
commented 2016-03-03 22:46:54 -0500
I agree let WESTERN CANADA separate and I say make HARPER KING of western CANADA ,Manitoba west with the territories ,
commented 2016-03-03 22:40:36 -0500
PM Pretty Hair said something about ‘listening to the science’ and ‘social license’ during and after his campaign. We need to keep this science forefront and ram it down their throat the way they have been doing to us since the start of this cLIEmate change fiasco!
I long for the ‘old’ days when terrorists struck in Beirut by highjacking a plane and global warming was caused by termites !! or was it ants…..
Go Western Canada !
commented 2016-03-03 22:35:07 -0500
The sooner we force the separation issue the better. Best case – we separate. Worst cast – we look & act like selfish Quebec with only our interests taken into account when making decisions. Question: Is there anything Alberta gets from Quebec we can ban/boycott. BC hope to sell us hydro power because we are shutting down our coal fire power stations should be opposed. No pipelines. No purchasing anything from BC. Oh - I forgot Alberta doesn’t have a leader so forget all the above!!!!
commented 2016-03-03 22:25:46 -0500
I would sign up for that law suit.
Unlike all lieberals and demoncrats, I will stay in my country and fight for common sense policies. I won’t Google “how to immigrate to USA”.
I always find it laughable how childish lieberals are when they lose an election,,, they were all suppose to leave back in 2011 , because they couldn’t function living with Mr. Harper being our P.M..
Can’t wait for the trumpster to be President, and tell our Frenchie lôser pm to pound salt.
commented 2016-03-03 21:46:29 -0500
All Conservatives in Canada should get together and take out a class action Law Suit against the Government of Canada.

We believe that the Government of Canada is taking money from the Canadian Taxpayer under false pretenses, under the guise of Carbon Tax. We also believe that the Government of Canada should be forced to prove, beyond any doubt, that Global warming is a fact and also that it is caused by man made C02 emissions.

I think that this would put our Great Pretender, Justin, in an awkward position. In fact I think he would be screwed.