February 01, 2017

Trudeau’s dangerous, secretive carbon tax: Are Liberals ignoring “evidence”?

Brian LilleyArchive

Remember when Trudeau and his Liberals liked to claim they were all about facts, evidence based decision making and science? I’d say “those were the days”, but it seems they never existed, especially where the oil industry, or putting a price on carbon are concerned. 

It turns out Trudeau’s government knows their carbon pricing plans will drive up costs, including for the manufacturing industry. But while they know that, while they have it in their own reports, they don’t want to dig too deeply.

Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall’s big complaint about Trudeau’s plan was that despite this being a massive tax change with potentially huge economic implications, there has not been an economic impact study.

A massive change to the tax system is being imposed by the federal government and no study on what it might do - either positive or negative - has been completed.

The federal Conservatives tried to get information by submitting order paper questions in the House of Commons, a formal way to ask the government which requires real responses in writing, not political spin.

But, I’m not sure the Liberals get that.

Watch as I show you specific questions submitted by Conservative MP’s, and the less than encouraging responses they received.

Their message to the provinces is essentially, you’ll put a price on carbon dioxide emissions and it will meet our standards or we will impose a price on you, but then they try to wash their hands of it.

A report for the feds, obtained by the Regina Leader-Post shows that last spring Trudeau’s Liberals were warned about the impact a carbon price would have on some sectors of the economy. Here is the quote.

“....because of the tax, a manufacturing firm would pay higher price for energy derived from burning fossil fuels. In turn, this firm would increase the price of its goods to reflect higher input costs for energy obtained from carbon. The tax would cascade throughout the economy and prices would increase most for goods that make intensive use of carbon-based energy.”

This was in a pro-carbon tax paper prepared for the feds and even they can see this will drive up costs and drive up prices.

Trudeau and company keep saying the tax can simply be returned to the people, and be revenue neutral. Well Ontario isn’t going that way and neither is Alberta. Premier’s Wynne and Notley want the extra money to spend on pet projects, so if you live in either province, you’re simply going to pay a lot more with no tax relief elsewhere.

But even if it were revenue neutral, what good does that do if in an export driven economy, you make everything we sell more expensive, something Trudeau’s working group on carbon pricing warned about.

“Increasing carbon prices to levels well beyond those of our trading partners could create competitiveness concerns in certain sectors.”

While they have been warned, while there have been discussions about refunding the carbon tax on exports, on using the tax from one sector to subsidize another - there is still no serious economic impact study on this sweeping change.

Or if there is, they’re hiding it from Parliament, hiding it from Canadians, hoping we won’t notice.

Thankfully, a number of Conservative leadership hopefuls have pledged to do away away with a carbon tax if elected leader and then prime minister, and you can say no as well by signing our petition.

Go to StopTheCarbonTax.com and add your name to the tens of thousands of Canadians that have already said enough is enough! Then do us and every Canadian a favour and share that website on social media, post it to Facebook, share it on Twitter, email it to family and friends. Share this video too.

Our wallets can’t afford it, our family budgets can’t afford it, our industries can’t afford it.

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commented 2017-02-02 12:00:23 -0500
Hey turdo I would like to ask what time is it. Harley to answer your question ,we are committed to moving forward with our climate change leader shit plan.
commented 2017-02-02 10:47:55 -0500
Oh! You mean to say we need to do studies on this topic, well nobody told me & I talk to Gerald every chance I get, but I’ve been so busy travelling, vacationing, rubbing elbows with the rich & famous, talking selfies, I haven’t had much time for anything that is of importance to the Canadian people.
This is where the economists Mr. Stephen Harper & Mr. Brad Trost can run circles around Trudeau & his band of know nothing puppets.
The Liberals who are forever telling us how tolerant they are are the least tolerant of all, but they are certainly the most stubborn by sticking to their ideology, not allowing the other side of this carbon emission warming the climate BS a chance to debate.
Shebel, have some decency here & show some respect for the women who read & comment here. I don’t appreciate the language you’re using in this venue.
commented 2017-02-02 07:55:10 -0500
Keith Barnes - you should gather up a gaggle of gals and call them your wives -- and reap many benefits that we were once too proud to do.
commented 2017-02-02 07:48:21 -0500
It is a real shame , when a Liberal , uses a Man to pretend that she is True.
commented 2017-02-02 02:01:02 -0500
It’s all right Justin can afford it, he is all that matters.
commented 2017-02-02 01:54:59 -0500
The contention that human emissions are now the dominant influence on climate is simply a hypothesis, rather than a universally accepted scientific theory. The science is not settled and there is growing support for the theory that we need to increase dwindling CO2 concentrations to stave off plant death and another ice age.

Politicians acting on only one of many thesis of climate are by definition working against public interest.
commented 2017-02-01 23:58:09 -0500
Brian, Good story, but small error. You said Albertan carbon tax money is revenue neutral , but only for the Gov,t. Some Albertans are receiving a cheque and signing it over to the Wild Rose Party. This was a Rebel Story a week or two ago.
commented 2017-02-01 21:58:10 -0500
None of this has to make any sense.
commented 2017-02-01 21:19:43 -0500
It is a real shame when Politicians that tax you to save the Planet are -

Only using the Loot to save their Integrity.
Watch—- https://youtu.be/2rlYPb2plaY
commented 2017-02-01 20:56:31 -0500
Gerald Butts, take an early retirement, leave the country, we’ll pay the expense. No doubt a lower cost that what you are planning for the entire country. Oh BTW, take little potato with you. Sophie can sing and entertain for the whole trip.
Unbelievable how many urban millennia voted for this BS.
Unfortunately they will have offspring some day, and those kids will wonder why 80% of their meager paycheck has to pay for little potato’s extravagances incurred before they were born.
commented 2017-02-01 20:45:30 -0500
As a Pensioner, I received a $7.00 per month increase on my Pension to cover the increase in the cost of living. If I were a Muslim I would likely receive a $700.00 per month increase, what with all my Wives etc.

Trudeau should try and be honest, for once and call the Carbon Tax what it really is, a Muslim Tax.

Up Yours, Justin.
commented 2017-02-01 20:17:25 -0500
Justin has ordered a bigger bus. Too crowded under there now. Like a refugee camp.
commented 2017-02-01 20:13:36 -0500
Finance report saying $1.5T debt by 2055 projects too far to be reliable. ICCP climate estimates wrong 19 out of 20 times are. Let’s make policy! Liberal logic.
commented 2017-02-01 19:54:35 -0500
Duh,,, I hope your not expecting any answers from Trudeau. He is just a Robot, he has no brain, he says what he is PROGRAMMED to say. Oh and as far as costs going up, how about your local property taxes going up because their costs are going up, because of, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT FOR IT, CARBON TAXES. OOPS what kind of an idiot thought this out. TAXES GOING UP BECAUSE OF MORE TAXES!!!!!!
commented 2017-02-01 19:23:34 -0500
While Canada is raising the costs of manufacturing, the USA is slashing taxes and energy costs. Not only will this raise the costs of everything here in Canada, it will cause job losses and reduce our tax base. It’s a lose lose situation that will have no effect on the weather.
commented 2017-02-01 19:01:17 -0500
Mr. Lilley,

I want to point out that all is not lost in Alberta, we get a free light bulb that only cost me, on current projection, $2500 in increased taxes. As I once posted before, I am looking forward to the technological marvel that is that light bulb.

Second, this whole carbon tax extortion is a piggy-in-the-middle game among the extortionists and the the tax-payer in the middle. As it happens, I received a letter blaming the Feds for the tax on tax from the Alberta finance minister, but no mention about how the Alberta government was going to oppose it which was my question.

In short, all regressive Canadian governments are passing the ball between each other while tripping we tax-payer’s in the middle telling us to F’ck ourselves.
commented 2017-02-01 18:59:19 -0500
One person telling the truth about the colossal climate hoax and that is Brad Trost who I will vote for.
commented 2017-02-01 18:51:36 -0500
The carbon tax is what they signed onto when they signed the Paris agreement. Trudeau and his gang of commies are all UN one worlders bent on destroying the nation state.
commented 2017-02-01 18:25:10 -0500
Justin has this problem of Pretending that he is Prime Minister of Canada.

Justin also has this problem of Diffusing controversial issues onto the Provinces .
If you want to Tax the air that Canadians breathe out, then ,at least have the GUTS to take the Responsibly ,pretend that you know what you are doing —and make it a National Tax where ALL Canadians are treated Equally in every Provence.
commented 2017-02-01 18:14:52 -0500
A couple of years ago we were paying $1.40 per litre for gas and that didn’t dissuade us from its use. Now we are paying $1.07 -$1.10 and that includes the stupid carbon tax. So $1.40 didn’t work but $1.07 is supposed to work. Only in the mind of a tax and spend Liberal does that make sense. Vote them out whenever and wherever they run for office. Never vote Liberal. NVL.
commented 2017-02-01 18:11:25 -0500
Brad Trost for Conservative party leader. With two degrees; B.Sc. in Geophysics and a B.A. in Economics, he is well qualified.
commented 2017-02-01 17:55:51 -0500
The Liberals are clueless. Not surprising as we have a PM who believes that budgets balance themselves.
Brian, virtually all the Conservative leadership candidates have declared that they oppose a carbon tax, except for Michael Chong. However, there is only one candidate who has a solid reason for scrapping the carbon tax, namely, that the whole idea of man-made climate change is a sham. That candidate, also a geophysicist by training, is Brad Trost.
commented 2017-02-01 17:07:59 -0500
Too bad these Muslim blowing liberals weren’t preforming their duties in the mosque the other day! This scam tax will provide Cush pay for all government employees however it’s only fun till you run out of the money that pays for all this… remember people cash is king and government cant tax what they can’t find.