May 05, 2018

Trudeau’s summer jobs pledge was never meant for Muslims

Ezra LevantRebel Commander

 

On last night’s show, I told you that while more than 1,400 Christian groups have been denied summer job grants, a new report in the Sun reveals that a number of Islamic groups with controversial views, haven’t been denied.

Do you think those groups swore an attestation that they support Trudeau’s personal views on abortion and transgenderism?

And if they did, do you think they meant it in any way?

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commented 2018-05-07 23:19:42 -0400
Andrew Stephenson you do realize many government jobs require a MORALITY CLAUSE? That is hypocrisy according to your comment.
commented 2018-05-07 23:18:53 -0400
Andrew Stephenson the Mustard Seed in Edmonton nullifies that assumption. They are also a non profit that will have less people to help the poor and homeless due to this bigotry.
Also ABORTION IS NOT A RIGHT! And none of them are stopping anyone from having one.
commented 2018-05-07 18:28:46 -0400
Andrew Stephenson, answer the direct question, where did you get your PhD?
commented 2018-05-07 11:11:35 -0400
“Drew Wakariuk commented 16 hours ago
Andrew Stephenson you made the claim, the article is about it not applying to Muslims and it does not. Thanks for playing , try again.”
That wasn’t demonstrated. All that Levant said is that some Muslim organizations were approved, despite their nominal objection. But, some Christian orgs were approved as well, despite the same. These are probably organizations that can separate personal beliefs from collective ones.

“Drew Wakariuk commented 13 hours ago
Andrew Stephenson Sharia is against abortion unless the mother is in danger healthwise so this group should not be allowed under the same rules.”
The attestation doesn’t rule out personally held opinions, merely that you must respect your employees constitutional rights. A religious organization can be opposed to abortion, but at the same time recognize their employee’s right to have one even if you personally disagree.
commented 2018-05-06 23:31:50 -0400
Andrew, “trivial contextual differance”. Not the point and you know it. Forget about us, try being honest with yourself.
commented 2018-05-06 21:54:03 -0400
Andrew Stephenson Sharia is against abortion unless the mother is in danger healthwise so this group should not be allowed under the same rules. Fro some reason they are getting a pass? I WONDER WHY?? LMAO! Keep avoiding reality.
https://twitter.com/TarekFatah/status/993208490482073600
A homeless shelter in Edmonton is denied. How dare those evil Christians help the poor and homeless., right Andrew? Trudeau is a pathetic joke and a filthy bigoted left wing scumbag.
commented 2018-05-06 19:05:50 -0400
Andrew Stephenson you made the claim, the article is about it not applying to Muslims and it does not. Thanks for playing , try again.
Oh by the way , the murder rate in NY is not going up. You got me on that one. I stand corrected.
commented 2018-05-06 14:39:57 -0400
Andrew Stephenson, answer these directly and stop deflecting. You stated you held a PhD. Where is your proof? Why don’t you provide it? What was your thesis titled? What University? You are a liar. And by the way, FGM is performed by Muslims in North America. No one else.
commented 2018-05-06 13:23:10 -0400
Common Sense commented 11 hours ago
“Andrew Gordo Steele Stephenson you hypocritical liar, non-PhD, show me a Christian in the last 1000 years that has thrown a gay from a rooftop. Show me a Christian in the last 1000 years that has stoned a woman to death for adultry. Show me a Christian that has chopped their daughter’s privates apart whilst the mother holds her down. Show me, you hypocritical lying overpaid troll, who still has yet to prove a PhD. You are the worst of the trolls, and the troll farm will be coming soon for a refund. "

A rooftop, specifically? I can’t. They prefer simpler techniques, often involving guns or blunt objects.

Homosexuality was a capital crime in the UK until 1861, and in some states in the US until 1873. It’s not clear how many people were hanged for sodomy, but these very Christian countries had those laws on the books.

FGM is endemic to sub-Saharan Africa, including predominantly Christian countries like Ethiopia, where Christians are about 65% of the population, and prevalence is estimated at about 50-70%. FGM isn’t a Muslim tradition specifically, the overlap is largely coincidental and it’s essentially non-existent outside of that part of Africa.
commented 2018-05-06 13:16:01 -0400
“Terry MacLeod MacLeod commented 10 hours ago
Andrew; verse 26 “to me therefor, you shall be sacred: for I, the Lord, am sacred, I, who have set you apart from other nations to be my own.” This, after an exhaustive list of pagan practises to avoid and the punishments commensurate. This, after 400yrs. in captivity in pagan Egypt. Laying with another man wasnt any more special than any of the other pagan practices. They were instructions specifically for his people who were free to leave the fold at any time. They were not instructed to go out and throw gays off rooftops the way Muslims do. Context. "

I believe the Bible preferred stoning to “throwing off rooftops”. Since the end result is the same, I consider it a trivial contextual difference.

However, in Romans 1:20=32
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20 The invisible things about Him—His eternal power and deity—have been clearly seen since the creation of the world and are understood by the things that are made, so that they are without excuse.

21 Because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him or give thanks to Him as God, but became futile in their imaginations, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools. 23 They changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man, birds, four-footed beasts, and creeping things.

24 Therefore God gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their own bodies among themselves. 25 They turned the truth of God into a lie and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged the natural function for what is against nature. 27 Likewise the men, leaving the natural function of the woman, burned in their lust toward one another, men with men doing that which is shameful, and receiving in themselves the due penalty of their error.."
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We see direct evidence that not believing in God doesn’t matter – in fact the replacement of righteousness with debasement – , they’re “worthy of death”.

As for ’leaving the fold", best be careful. Apostasy is frowned upon.
Deuteronomy 13:6-11
“6 “If your brother, the son of your mother, your son or your daughter, the wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, secretly entices you, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which you have not known, neither you nor your fathers, 7 of the gods of the people which are all around you, near to you or far off from you, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth, 8 you shall not consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him; 9 but you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. 10 And you shall stone him with stones until he dies, because he sought to entice you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 11 So all Israel shall hear and fear, and not again do such wickedness as this among you.”
commented 2018-05-06 02:46:36 -0400
Andrew; verse 26 “to me therefor, you shall be sacred: for I, the Lord, am sacred, I, who have set you apart from other nations to be my own.” This, after an exhaustive list of pagan practises to avoid and the punishments commensurate. This, after 400yrs. in captivity in pagan Egypt. Laying with another man wasnt any more special than any of the other pagan practices. They were instructions specifically for his people who were free to leave the fold at any time. They were not instructed to go out and throw gays off rooftops the way Muslims do. Context.
commented 2018-05-06 02:26:55 -0400
Andrew Gordo Steele Stephenson you hypocritical liar, non-PhD, show me a Christian in the last 1000 years that has thrown a gay from a rooftop. Show me a Christian in the last 1000 years that has stoned a woman to death for adultry. Show me a Christian that has chopped their daughter’s privates apart whilst the mother holds her down. Show me, you hypocritical lying overpaid troll, who still has yet to prove a PhD. You are the worst of the trolls, and the troll farm will be coming soon for a refund.
commented 2018-05-06 01:25:13 -0400
Let’s face it. George Soros is funding the pro-abortion movement in Ireland. Ireland is considered the key, ‘pearl’, country to attack.
Justin Trudeau is a devotee of George Soros. Trudeau is attacking any form of Christianity in Canada………….and Canada is letting him
Canada is so naïve and oblivious, it almost resembles how Germans became so enamored by Adolf Hitler and Nazism.

George Soros is dictating Canada and its future. Trudeau is simply taking orders.
commented 2018-05-06 00:25:14 -0400
“Drew Wakariuk commented 2 hours ago
Andrew Stephenson please prove the same for all the Christian groups denied then. ’

Why doesn’t our generous host do that? That would be actual journalism. Either they don’t care enough to put in the legwork, or denial rates and standards were comparable for both groups. I have my suspicions, but it’s a pretty basic failure of basic journalism to have not done even such a basic apples-to-apples comparison rather than cherry picking for shock factor.

“Still dragging this old chestnut out eh, Mr-Babies-Are- Parasites? And again I ask you what was the context for the Old Testament passages you refer to? As theologians say, a text without context is a pretext. "

One example is Leviticus 20:13, where God told Moses many things, among them, “if a man lies with another man as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood guilt shall be upon them.”

What do you think the context of that is? It’s pretty unequivocal IMHO.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+20&version=MEV
commented 2018-05-05 23:50:23 -0400
ANDREW STEPHENSON commented

In fact, if you look into it, the Quran and the Old Testament advocate similar punishments for similar “Crimes”. The Bible indeed, doesn’t advocate for throwing homosexuals off roofs – it advocates for stoning them to death. Whether you take that demand at face value or not is a different matter, but the same is true of Muslims.
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Still dragging this old chestnut out eh, Mr-Babies-Are- Parasites? And again I ask you what was the context for the Old Testament passages you refer to? As theologians say, a text without context is a pretext.
commented 2018-05-05 22:29:51 -0400
Andrew Stephenson please prove the same for all the Christian groups denied then.
commented 2018-05-05 20:19:53 -0400
POS PM TruDope’s pislamic policies are going to come back and bite him in the nuts, can’t wait! This bastard son of Fidel Castro had better have his bags packed & a plane waiting when he gets his sorry sick ass booted from Canada!
commented 2018-05-05 18:29:23 -0400
“Canadian Patriot commented 2 hours ago
Andrew Stephenson, the point is that 1400 Christian groups were DENIED funding on the premise of their religious views. Islamic groups were given funding when the punishments for abortion and transgenderism in Islam are severe. Christians, while they may not agree with abortion or transgenderism do NOT instruct their followers to throw homosexuals off of rooftops or hang them from cranes during sermons, as Islam does.”

The argument being made here, that Muslim groups were insincere, is entirely speculative. As in any religion, not all Muslims or their groups are ultra-orthodox, and most of them don’t fill their services with instructions to hang gays off cranes.

In fact, if you look into it, the Quran and the Old Testament advocate similar punishments for similar “Crimes”. The Bible indeed, doesn’t advocate for throwing homosexuals off roofs – it advocates for stoning them to death. Whether you take that demand at face value or not is a different matter, but the same is true of Muslims.

This is “fake news” – you’re being presented half a story and being lead to believe that something is unfair, when you don’t have the full story, but rather a single observation presented without any context.

Some Muslim groups were funded, having signed the attestation. They were probably sincere about it.
Some Christian groups were funded, and signed the attestation. They, too, were probably sincere.

Some Christian groups were rejected. Some Muslim groups were rejected.

Give the “culture wars” a rest. This has nothing to do with Christianity vs Islam, and everything to do with degree of orthodoxy within either.
commented 2018-05-05 17:42:42 -0400
Liberals living up to everything I thought they could an can do . That’s why I never voted Liberal . Trudeau Sr Chretien Tax dodging Martin all the same .
This is the shit that goes on in Communist countries
commented 2018-05-05 16:49:09 -0400
Andrew Stephenson, the point is that 1400 Christian groups were DENIED funding on the premise of their religious views. Islamic groups were given funding when the punishments for abortion and transgenderism in Islam are severe. Christians, while they may not agree with abortion or transgenderism do NOT instruct their followers to throw homosexuals off of rooftops or hang them from cranes during sermons, as Islam does. The fact that you are mentally incapable of recognizing the hypocrisy of Trudeau’s government is mind bending.
commented 2018-05-05 16:26:29 -0400
Trudeau, the democratically elected dictator.
If you voted liberal you are the problem. Wake the hell up!
commented 2018-05-05 16:24:28 -0400
Since 9/11 – IN THE NAME OF ISLAM (SATAN): 35,240 Attacks, 228,656 Killed, 308,653 Injured that we know of.
commented 2018-05-05 14:06:17 -0400
The Trudeau government has to deny the Christian groups funding . They need the money too “de-radicalize” those who went to fight for ISIS and are now coming back to Canada!
commented 2018-05-05 13:52:34 -0400
Common Sense commented 1 hour ago
Cue the lying fake PhD Andrew Gordo Steele Stephenson who will no doubt say hundreds of Christian churches signed on and were approved, in Ontario alone he stated. Right… "

I don’t need to “say it”, here’s the list for your personal consideration, searching for the keyword “church” in Ontario. 265 results.
http://disclosure.esdc.gc.ca/dp-pd/eec-csj/eec-csj.jsp?lang=eng&organization=church&jurisdiction=6
commented 2018-05-05 13:21:00 -0400
Trudeau and his coffee house caucus will do just about anything for a vote.
commented 2018-05-05 12:38:38 -0400
Cue the lying fake PhD Andrew Gordo Steele Stephenson who will no doubt say hundreds of Christian churches signed on and were approved, in Ontario alone he stated. Right…
commented 2018-05-05 12:36:57 -0400
Oh come on now Terry, maybe they meant it. Of course it is part of their mantra to lie and deceive if it helps them further their goals.
commented 2018-05-05 10:33:56 -0400
Not a hope that they meant it. Lying to Infadels is a high form of piety.