February 23, 2017

Trudeau’s Super Hornet folly could cost our troops dearly

Brian LilleyArchive

It’s one thing to make a rash campaign promise to not do something your predecessor did, it’s another to follow through with that promise when you know it could damage the capabilities and integrity of our military, but that’s what Justin Trudeau is doing.

Trudeau is being warned once again, not by political opponents or pundits like me but, by a baker’s dozen of retired senior military personnel including some like General Paul Manson who held senior air force roles while Trudeau’s father was prime minister.

General Manson and twelve other retired air force generals have written to Trudeau to warn him and his defence minister that they are making a mistake buying 18 Super Hornets as a “stop gap” measure while picking a replacement for the ageing CF18 fighter jets.

Watch as I share what these former commanders of Canada’s air force have had to say about why this is a bad idea and how this interim purchase of a fleet of Super Hornets will not help and will in fact complicate matters.

You might recall that the Trudeau Liberals promised to run a government that made decisions based on evidence, that listened to experts but on this file, Trudeau and the Liberals are not listening to the experts.

They're not listening to the Air Force staff that have spent years on this file tell them still that the F-35 is the plane Canada should be getting.

They aren’t listening to experts like these retired generals that say buying the Super Hornets is a mistake.

What they have done is without any evidence, stated clearly and unequivocally that they will not buy the F-35 even through an open competition, and without any bids, they sole sourced a contract to Boeing to buy the 18 Super Hornets.

No experts, no evidence, no facts just a determination to do the opposite of Stephen Harper and the Conservatives even if it hobbles the ability of our air force for years or decades to come.

This is reckless policy making from a man who claimed he would do the opposite.

We’ve been calling on Justin Trudeau to give our troops the equipment they deserve for some time and now the generals are joining the call. Will you?

If you haven’t done so already I invite you to sign our petition at www.EquipOurTroops.ca.

Demand the prime minister do the right thing for the men and women we send into harm’s way, and please, share this video on Facebook, Twitter or by any other means you can to spread the word.

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commented 2017-02-26 15:54:25 -0500
@bravo Zulu; We never get tired of seeing you boys fly over 13 miles west of P.A.
commented 2017-02-26 12:34:28 -0500
ANDRE LAUZON commented: “Too late, the brown envelope has already been accepted!”

Indeed! Follow the kickbacks to high placed lieberals and the Liebrano Party!
commented 2017-02-24 13:43:08 -0500
Like the submarines we bought the ones were moth balled for 5 years and killed some of our people.
China is building islands for military purposes. Canada used to have the third largest military in the world. We are now 22nd largest. You will find the Liebrals gutted the armed forces time and time again.
Trudeau SR. had no respect for our fallen and rode around on his motor cycle with a German helmet on to prove it. His bastard son is Just-as bad.
commented 2017-02-24 12:31:20 -0500
well better order some USS Zumwalts too….
commented 2017-02-24 11:01:13 -0500
Trudeau senior said that the military is “a necessary evil”. The apple didn’t fall far from the tree.
commented 2017-02-24 09:53:22 -0500
by Justin has no concern about his military! In fact he hates it along with Canada and Canadians. All he is concerned about are his selfies and political gain accessed on the backs of deceived Canadian taxpayers!
commented 2017-02-24 08:38:06 -0500
Our fearless leader, Baby Doc Trudeau making (or being told) a decision: No experts, no evidence, no facts, and most definitely no brains.

Why buy a thirty-plus year old plane design when a new and modern design, tactically superior, is available?

Israel purchased 34, and recently added another 16 units. I wonder why? Scandinavian countries, such as Finland, have decided that it was the most practical and superior purchase for their airforces.

But no, our PM Baby Doc is once again pretending to do something for us that will cost us billions, saddle us with outdated technology and maintenance and parts costs of something that is outdated to begin with. Hey, but what does he care? Its only money, and not his, so why not play with toys,

If our forces are called upon to do something, it will be us bringing a cap gun to a gun fight.

As usual, Trudeau and his cabinet, when in a room full of intelligent people, are sadly alone, amazed and open mouthed as they watch a fly passing them by,
commented 2017-02-24 08:28:08 -0500
By the time Canada gets new fighter jets other air forces will be flying X-wing fighters will R2 units assisting the pilot.
commented 2017-02-24 05:49:16 -0500
On the lighter side, Canada should invest in a large fleet of drones. They are far more maneuverable than piloted aircraft and Canada has a virtually endless supply of highly qualified pilots, all those “Generation Trudeau” kids sitting in their parents basement playing video games.
commented 2017-02-24 05:33:01 -0500
If it comes to a fight, Junior will find a nice safe place to hide while our pilots get their asses shot off, just like his daddy.
commented 2017-02-24 04:32:01 -0500
Trudope should order 100 Sopwith Camels. That would bring our fighter capability up to the highest level ever under liberal leadership….
commented 2017-02-24 01:44:06 -0500
I don’t know. I’ve got 35 yrs as a military pilot – but not fighters. My first thought is that we should be getting something that the US will be using. I think I heard that Trump was anti F35 (too costly and bug ridden). From what I know the Super Hornet is a proven airframe and a lot cheaper. I would rather have a lot of the Super Hornet than a few of the F-35s.

We should be is step with the US on this.
commented 2017-02-24 01:17:46 -0500
If the libs had their way our military would have planes powered by a rubber band.
commented 2017-02-24 01:16:34 -0500
Moshe Demers Trump has different needs and other planes to use , and the experts say this would be a mistake for Canada, or do you know something they don’t?
commented 2017-02-24 00:11:33 -0500
Could cost?

It definitely WILL cost – I have just over 2,000 flight hours on the F-18 – most of it out of Cold Lake. As low low ranking individual the media and the general public give a damn what I say – but I know what I am talking about.

And so do a whole bunch of us who the media would never look at.

I can assure you this folly will cost the entire country of canada dearly.

I wonder where the money is flowing on this one?

Someone is making some big coin and it is not the military schmuck – it is a suit and tie wearer.
commented 2017-02-24 00:04:14 -0500
This Hornet purchase is sole source of near obsolete tech where maintenance and upgrading outstrips purchase price 3 to 1. It was an unneeded buy which will hamstring the full introduction of the replacement technology. Everything about it makes no logical sense, – unless you track down the money trail – who of this party’s legacy patronage clients is invested in Boeing?? Who will get service contracts?? Cui Bono ??? follow the money.
commented 2017-02-23 20:55:23 -0500
Too late, the brown envelope has already been accepted!
commented 2017-02-23 19:56:26 -0500
Sunny ways….sunny ways……
commented 2017-02-23 19:36:06 -0500
Canada’s defence spending is down to .97% of our GDP Back in the 80s Canada signed an agreement to spend 2.5% of our GDP we never spent more than1.4% and that was done at height of the Afghan War where we had to buy new tanks and new cargo planes. Canada and the other NATO powers have agreed to spend 2% of their GDP. Does anyone want to bet that the Truedope
government won’t reach 1.1 % of GDP
To give you an idea how bad our armed forces have fallen we have need two Artic ice breakers for 25 years our city class ships are in dire need of refitting the one supply ship is 55 years old we need at least 3 one for each ocean one supply ship ice hardened .
do you know there are 5 countries that are laying claim to our Artic the U.S.A. Russia, China Denmark, France and there maybe more like Norway the U.K.
commented 2017-02-23 19:25:54 -0500
The F-18 Superhornet is a great 4.5 generation fighter aircraft but China and Russia are working on the deployment of fifth generation fighters. Pilots in the old Superhornets will not be fighting on equal terms with fifth generation fighters. I understand that when the F-35 was tested in mock combat with fourth generation fighters, their kill ratio was 20 to one. In the words of Wil Smith in the movie “Independence Day”, “I just got to get me one of these!”
commented 2017-02-23 19:23:14 -0500
Evidence? Why would the Tater Tot need evidence? His god-like omniscience about things has endowed him with powers to: "… to rethink elements as basic as space and time. To go all sciencefictiony on you” .

Bow and scrape all ye who enter the wizard’s presence.
commented 2017-02-23 19:02:44 -0500
Moshe Demers said, "Well they better do some more research because the f18 superhornets are bad ass (and did i mention a lot cheaper) … "

Apparently you were not paying attention to what Brian Lily said, because it was clear that the 13 Air Force Generals were saying that it would cost too much to support the new Super Hornets because of training costs.
commented 2017-02-23 18:55:51 -0500
Air supremacy fighters have always:

Been too long in delivery

Disappointed some requirement criteria

Been ridiculously and prohibitively expensive

Been a package of compromises

Been a procurement nightmare

Been just in time to match or be slightly better than what the enemy comes up with

Been a widowmaker of fine pilots until the developement and prototype bugs were worked out

Been absolutely necessary…because without air supremacy you are sending your ground and naval forces on a suicide mission.
commented 2017-02-23 18:55:03 -0500
Poor dumbass Trudeau. He just can’t do anything right. I guess being a jobless playboy does not prepare you to be PM!
commented 2017-02-23 18:52:04 -0500
This is no better than withholding danger money from our Troops, as he did a short time ago and he is doing it for the same reason. It gives him more to spend on his Fifth Column of Jihad, that he is importing in to Canadistan.

Brian, one small request; Please do not refer to Trudeau as a Man, I doubt that he even belongs to the Species known as Homo Sapiens.
commented 2017-02-23 18:38:07 -0500
Well they better do some more research because the f18 superhornets are bad ass (and did i mention a lot cheaper) Apparently the f35 are still plagued with problems and the costs are out of control! Even TRUMP weighed in and put the f18 over the f35 if they (lockheed martin)cant get their act together.
commented 2017-02-23 18:28:31 -0500
Chretien pulled a similar stunt when he cancelled the purchase of the EH 101 helicopters. As a result, our navalpilots were flying the old Sea King helicopters for years (when the Sea Kings didn’t fall into the ocean). Our pilots are the best and deserve the best equipment. Our potential opponents are bringing new generation aircraft online and we need an aircraft that can deal with the threqt.
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