April 25, 2017

Trump’s trade war with Canada: Is Trudeau up for the art of the deal?

Brian LilleyArchive

It started with milk when US President Trump got irritated over changes Canadian dairy farmers made to effectively stop the import of one specific product worth about $10M a year, now Canada’s softwood lumber industry is facing duties of $1B. 

This, ladies and gentlemen, is just the beginning. So how did we get to this point?

Watch as I explain how we got here starting with the bizarre world of supply management and Canada’s dairy farmers which displeased Trump and is now causing us to get whacked all over the place.

Irritating President Trump on $10M worth of dairy means we’re now facing job losses over the countervailing duties on Canadian softwood lumber imports.

Last time the US imposed softwood lumber duties it took about four years to adjudicate, Canada eventually won but it cost about 10K jobs in BC alone.

Don’t think I’m playing sides and defending Trump’s actions. I’m just pointing out this is bad news and the fact is Trump is lashing out in retaliation at Canada over what he sees as unfair trading practices.

We’re facing huge losses in jobs and economic activity because one of our protectionist industries didn’t want competition. So now Trump is defending the very protectionist American lumber industry.

Forget about tweaking NAFTA, it might be time to blow the thing up and make sure that any future trade deal covers all these issues.

I guess the question will be whether Trudeau is up for to the art of the deal when he faces off against Trump.

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commented 2017-04-26 21:07:56 -0400
Jamie MacMaster, when he ran CTV’s Question Period, he seemed more balanced than most CTV people.
Jamie we should remember that there is pressure on Journalists and University Professors etc., to think like Trudeau’s morons or lose your job. Fife may be a coward, but that doesn’t mean that he is dumb.
commented 2017-04-26 20:03:37 -0400
“Robert Fife is a Conservative when they are in charge; a Liberal when Liberals are in charge. Having said that, he is one of the few smart journalists in Canada. "

Sure RON JOSEPH, sure he is. I mean, here he is back in 2008 when the Harper Conservatives were at the helm. Listen carefully….you can tell he’s a true Conservative.

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/008420.html

I think Robert Fife is a little weasel. How about that?
commented 2017-04-26 16:48:47 -0400
Jamie MacMaster—-Robert Fife is a Conservative when they are in charge; a Liberal when Liberals are in charge. Having said that, he is one of the few smart journalists in Canada.
commented 2017-04-26 14:44:32 -0400
Stephen E, I think President Trump didn’t like Trudeau’s underhanded way of handling things re: milk. He decided to call Canada out on this & wants to prove a point. I agree with your assessment of the softwood and lumber industry, and yes, Canada should request punitive damages.
It is my sense President Trump sees Trudeau for the globalist that he is and it rankles him, then, there is the matter of the PM promoting the Islamic agenda here in Canada. More reason to be concerned….stay tuned for more scrutiny from Washington; Trudeau is the cause!
commented 2017-04-26 09:53:31 -0400
Baby Doc up for the “art of the deal”? Simple answer about that simple man: No.

Since we will be going to the WTO for a fifth time and for the same reason, perhaps Canada should include in its complaint a demand for $100 billion as punitive for the US’ constant attack on our softwood and lumber industry.

The US is upset about $10 million less of profit from Canada is odd. The cost of two cruise missiles, two flights with Airforce One to somewhere in the US, less than a second’s worth of US government spending, 1/20 the value of equipment deserted by the US in Afghanistan. Why get upset about relatively next to nothing?
commented 2017-04-26 09:07:33 -0400
A day or two before Trump said he was going to fix the dairy problems, I heard Robert Fife on CFRA radio giving turdo la doo a tongue bath his brilliant trade strategy with Washington.
commented 2017-04-26 02:55:17 -0400
Jack Carter you miss the point that Harper was actually intelligent and would have good relations with Trump, Justin is a friggin pinhead and will get eaten alive by Trump/
commented 2017-04-26 02:53:56 -0400
Ron Joseph bringing up reality with Jack is commendable but he does not like it.
commented 2017-04-26 01:45:51 -0400
" Is Trudeau up for the art of the deal?"
With Donald Trump? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Yeah, well we’ve all seen Justin flailing his little pencil arms around like a hysterical six year old girl, pretending to pugilism…and we’ve all heard his ability with the English language and how worldly and wise he can sound…or not.
Yep, I’d wager we’re going to lose everything…else that Justin hasn’t already given away…and then some.
commented 2017-04-26 01:15:13 -0400
Karen DeManbey—-I like O’Leary’s great Financial Policies, but I don’t want a million new scavengers moving here, with 83% collecting welfare for life. I love Immigrants that work and try to fit in. I don’t think that is too much to ask , but O’Leary wants to remain with the status-quo.
commented 2017-04-26 01:04:53 -0400
Jack Carter—-Harper was in the middle of dismantling the Dairy Cartel, so the problem would never come to light. Trump would still be concentrating on Mexico.

Karen De Manbey—-Trudeau’s sin was he never phoned or asked for a meeting with Trump; he wrote a stern letter suggesting it was Wisconsin’s fault for overproducing the stuff.
commented 2017-04-26 00:32:30 -0400
Hey Karen – Your defamation adds exactly nothing to this discussion.
commented 2017-04-26 00:26:51 -0400
You are so busy hating Trudeau and humping Trump that you are missing the point. Trump’s stance is ridiculous and the actions of a failed leader. I am no Trudeau backer but grab some stones and stand up for your country. Quit living in Trump’s stupid failed dream. Vote O’leary if you really want someone who can stand up to Cheeto jesus
commented 2017-04-26 00:21:12 -0400
I am an American citizen and I am having a hard time understanding this issue. From what I have seen on the Rebel American dairy farmers came up with a product that distills milk to make it favorable to cheese producers in Canada. Canadian dairy farmers countered this product with lower prices on their milk.
This seems perfectly reasonable to me.
What I would assume to be market economics would be for American dairy farmers lowering their price or adding more value to their product.
Why are we having a trade war?
And why are we bringing soft lumber into this which will hurt the American consumer more than it will help? Lumber is expensive and adding a 20% tariff hurts the American consumer.
What am I missing?
commented 2017-04-26 00:04:15 -0400
You do realize that if Harper was PM, the idiocy from Trump would be the same. The dairy/soft wood issues for him were here long before Trudeau came along. This has nothing to do with Trudeau in terms of anything that he implemented.
commented 2017-04-25 23:15:20 -0400
Jason Bertucci they sure let the government do a number on them with the Pine beetle.
commented 2017-04-25 23:14:02 -0400
I just keep picturing the old Bambi vs Godzilla cartoon.
commented 2017-04-25 20:52:34 -0400
I thought it started when Trudeau put about 170% tariff on US drywall. Which added around 6000 dollars to the price of a new home. Which seems to be only in the west.
commented 2017-04-25 20:37:43 -0400
Brian Lilley,—Great report exposing Canada’s protective Dairy Industry as one of the obvious
guilty parties. Another guilty party is the Canadian Media.
Almost everyone knows that Pres. Trump has an ego the size of an elephant. Even a month before he won the election, CTV and CBC were running film clips 24/7 trying to show Trump as an incompetent clown; Even CTV’s News Net morning anchor Marcia who likely has a 65 IQ would make fun of this Business Millionaire. I saw CTV even lie about what Trump said in his speeches. Being in the BC time zone, I could listen to a Trump speech at 7:30 am and switch to the CTV 8am news. A quick example was Trump said on his first day in office, he would start deporting Mexicans with serious Criminal Offenses against them. Marcia reported that Trump is going to deport 11 million Mexicans on his first day. CBC didn’t lie like CTV,; they just did their famous censoring of anything that Trump was correct on. CBC Vancouver even showed a video where Christie Clark was laughing if Trump became President.
All of the above contributed to 80% of Canada’s stupid uninformed public hating Trump. As said above, Trump’s ego would not appreciate this unjust criticism.
Many of the Rebels predicted a trade war and now its starting. A person whose foresight was amazing is Ezra in his book Trumping Trudeau. His book predicted everything that is happening.
He also saw the funny part coming, which is Trudeau trying to deal with someone twice as smart as him. I wonder if Marica will report on that disaster.
commented 2017-04-25 20:00:40 -0400
’Is Trudeau up for the art of the deal?"

………..are you joking? Sending PM Selfie Freetokes into international trade negotiation is like sending a poodle puppy who squats to pee out to run with timber wolves.

He still hasn’t put his IQ score on the public record.- or his Foundation fund tax return – and for good reason.
commented 2017-04-25 19:22:07 -0400
My biggest concern is that there is a B/C election in progress. With potential job loss, how is this action going to impact it? The environmentalist NDP should be supportive of the Trump action, because it slows harvesting, yet they cannot be seen approving a Trump action. Clarke definitely stands up for the benefit of her electorate, as we learned in Alberta, and could take the anti-Trump stance.

Should prove interesting.
commented 2017-04-25 19:20:27 -0400
@Dr. Genius
“If you want to see how the negotiations will go, just imagine a show pony falling into the water and running into a shark.”

What, you don’t think that a substitute (not qualified for full time) drama teacher does not have the skills to negotiate with business leaders? Butts will advise him to take off his shirt.
commented 2017-04-25 19:10:47 -0400
If you want to see how the negotiations will go, just imagine a show pony falling into the water and running into a shark.
commented 2017-04-25 19:06:29 -0400
@Jan Rogers..yeah that’s right Justin…save the elbow you cannot wash after handling your junk like you’re supposed to for elbowing women in the tit.

How did all that drywall that was needed to rebuild Fort MacMurray end up getting punitive tarrif on it?
commented 2017-04-25 18:30:38 -0400
I think Trump is mistaken going the Tariff route on softwood lumber. They didn’t win before and no reason to think they will this time. Just a waste of time before having to pay it back.
commented 2017-04-25 18:29:11 -0400
Tree , I hope your not a weeping willow
commented 2017-04-25 18:26:46 -0400
I think our boy blunder CRIMEMINISTER is thinking of trading solely with China and Europe, what’s wrong with that , well different culture, we would slowly lose our sovereignty

Tree you provide us with entertainment
So here goes

Tree , what color is your roots , your bark is peeling, your useless nuts are all over my back yard and your sap is dripping on to my screen
Why don’t you find a chipper and jump in , or at the very least , turn yourself into the nearest sawmill
What I trying to say is go find a forest to fall in , just go and leaf us alone

In my younger days, I was involved in logging, when I seen a tree like you , my first thoughts were not of hugging you , no no , my thoughts were of firing up my big homo , and sticking the blade to you
commented 2017-04-25 18:21:23 -0400
Well Carol this is a first for Quebec, they are going to be hit by this . The good news is Trudeau will increase the equalization payments from the rest of Canada . God forbid if poor Quebec has any hardship.
commented 2017-04-25 18:19:35 -0400
The TREE, too bad your roots are rotten!
commented 2017-04-25 18:18:15 -0400
Trudeau will not stand a chance in negotiating his way out the mess he created! Waiting for the NAFTA tribunal to publicly chastise our blundering PM re: milk.
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