December 20, 2016

UPDATE: Somali crime and honour killing in Ottawa

Faith GoldyArchive

An update from Ottawa after a Somali Muslim man is behind bars for allegedly stabbing his two sisters to death.

Police won't tell us why Musab A-Noor faces a difference in charges: first degree murder for one sister, Asma, and second degree in the case of his sister, Nasiba. Was his intention to kill premeditated in the case of one female relative but not the other? Did Nasiba rush to her sister's rescue and become a victim of her brother's hacking rampage?

Canada has a history of high profile honour killing and experts say the trend is on the rise.

However, honour killing is usually met with a charge of first degree murder, so why the difference in charges in this case?

Plus, based on recent crime data, we know Somalis are struggling to assimilate in Ottawa.

Should we rush to dismiss this double homicide as just another instance of drugs and gan crime, or is there another reason why a Muslim man would kill his two young sisters? 

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commented 2016-12-23 12:39:58 -0500
PLEASE STOP TRYING TO SPREAD FAKE NEWS

I’m extremely disheartened to see you reach so hard to make this connection. I PERSONALLY KNOW THIS FAMILY, THIS COULD NOT HAVE BEEN AN HONOUR KILLING.

1. The son was not even religious, (smoked weed, associated with gang members)
2. The two girls were ideal muslims (even prayed 5 times a day)
3. The Somali community doesn’t even practice honour killings, there may be rare cases.

I personally cannot tell you what caused this young man to do this horrific act, however I can assure you this wasn’t an honour killing.

PLEASE STOP TRYING TO SPREAD FAKE NEWS
commented 2016-12-22 10:55:15 -0500
Kenan, I guess I might be wrong about islam. All those killings just didn’t happen. The Rebel simply went around the world and staged them all. It is so obvious now.
commented 2016-12-22 09:35:02 -0500
Kenan I’m still waiting!
commented 2016-12-22 08:14:19 -0500
http://m.ottawasun.com/2016/12/21/ottawa-man-accused-of-killing-sisters-now-in-hospital-misses-court

Theres your evidence liza ! And maybe since ur definitely WRONG about your accusations in this case MAYBE just MAYBE ur wrong about everything you think about Islam. Although I know you ignorant people would prefer to hate and believe lies instead of love and seek truth because that obviously takes more effort. Have a nice life you sad group of individuals, i am done here. May God forgive you all.
commented 2016-12-21 09:03:55 -0500
Jesus promised eternal life whereas Mohamed promises eternal vigins.
Which of these makes more sense?
Mohamed is nothing but a sexual deviant, pedophile who also practiced bestiality.

DJBT
commented 2016-12-21 01:30:53 -0500
Kenan Jesus said, “I and the Father are one”. How is that figurative. The Jews certainly didn’t see it as figurative since they took up stones to stone Him.He also said, “If you have seen me you have seen the Father”.

John 10
“I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29 [d]My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are [e]one.”
31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him. 32 Jesus answered them, “I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?” 33 The Jews answered Him, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God.”
Q 1:
So who can give eternal life to someone other than God?
Q 2:
If Jesus did not intend to portray himself as God then why didn’t he simply correct the Jewish leaders and say “I am only speaking figuratively”? Problem solved.

I get the impression that you are recent convert to islam and one who did not thoroughly study the Bible before converting. Too bad that leaving islam(the religion of peace) means a death penalty should you change your mind. Not so for Christians. Those who leave as apostates are free to do so. We have no instructions do anything to them. God deals with them because the Judea-Christian God is big enough to handle things himself.
commented 2016-12-21 01:23:32 -0500
Kenan if someone made a piss Muhammed like the fellow who made piss Christ , why would they be murdered?
commented 2016-12-21 01:21:40 -0500
Kenan how did the middle east and parts of Asia and Africa become Islamic? Through love? NOT!
commented 2016-12-21 01:20:27 -0500
Kenan go ask for love from the Islamists committing genocide in Egypt.
commented 2016-12-21 01:19:24 -0500
Kenan sorry but we deal with the truth.
commented 2016-12-21 00:26:10 -0500
Kenan I’m still waiting for verses of the Koran about Infidels, Jihad , Sharia law and the Caliphate . Oh yeah and honour killings. You know them so why not share them with us so people can see how peaceful your cult oops I mean religion is !
commented 2016-12-21 00:21:12 -0500
You sound like you are a Choudary wannabe. Same deceitful responses. You are right about one thing. People should go to the Koran and read for themselves about how Islam is not really a religion in the true sense or a religion of peace. It is a political theocracy which advocates overtaking the west.
By the by, if your dehydrated booz is not such a bit of ‘common sense’.
May you keep your Sharia out of Canada.
commented 2016-12-21 00:13:20 -0500
Kenan ; Still angry for being expelled from Abraham’s tent.
commented 2016-12-21 00:00:26 -0500
Kenan I’m sure you’re right. Islam had nothing to do with it. Make sure you come back for an apology when the authorities finally come out with it, if they even do. We know too much and you know it, to be bamboozled by your taqiyya, you think we don’t know the nuances?
“May God deal with you justly for everything you have said.” You think I don’t know what that means?
Bye for now.
commented 2016-12-20 23:41:06 -0500
Anyways guys have a merry christmas and please just stop the unwarranted hate, prejudice and discrimination. Stop believing what you read on rebel media lol. They are obviously just in it for sensational news and click bait.
commented 2016-12-20 23:33:09 -0500
LoL terry. Taqiyyah is lying when your life is on the line. Im sure not afraid of my life being harmed over the internet lol. Just like God has allowed muslims to eat pork or drink alcohol if there is no other food or drink around and the person fears death by starvation or dehydration. Islam is just common sense but the deceivers use half truths to confuse the rest of the ignorance inclined. Stop believing what fear mongerers spread on the internet folks…its all there literally for you to hate and fear your neighbour. If muslims really believed that violence and war with non believers was mandatory then we would all be dead already. Talk to a real practicing muslim or pick up a Quran and go through the pages yourself and you will see that we have alot more in common than you think.
commented 2016-12-20 23:24:59 -0500
Liza Rosie, why do you call what happened an honour killing? Is there even a shred of evidence that the familys honour was besmirched by these young sisters or that the mentally sick son was a practicing muslim? Or do you just see muslim names and automatically assume a wicked act decreed by the islamic tradition has unfurled again. You dont even need to answer, your ignorance to the facts of the case says enough. These sisters taught Quran at a islamic school. The son was mentally sick and did the unimaginable in a fit of psychosis and tried unsuccesfully to harm himself as well. This case has nothing to do with religious doctrine or practices. Read the actual police report or even the ottawa citizen before going online and spouting your ignorance. May God deal with you justly for everything you have said. I truly hope you repent for your wicked accusations and devaluing the tragedy this family is facing by undermining their belief system.
commented 2016-12-20 23:18:40 -0500
Kenan Taqiyyah Yusuf, Merry Christmas.
commented 2016-12-20 22:42:11 -0500
KENAN YUSUF stop wasting our time. You know darn well that Christians are not killing their sisters to appease the family name, or shooting non believers or driving them down in the streets. Stop with your relativism it doesn’t work, and it’s weak.
Muslims do not follow Christ. What an insult.
commented 2016-12-20 22:38:40 -0500
Stop with the relativism it’s weak! Who condemns all Muslims? Just don’t come to western countries and expect to bring your Sharia with you. If you can’t do that then why would you think we should welcome you?
Islam is the antithesis of Christianity. Why makes you expect Islam to be embraced by the west when it is counter to everything we want to protect? I have read the Koran, it’s not that big a book. I know that its teachings have to be a part of any authentic Muslim’s life or there are repercussions to say the least. One who calls himself a Muslim and doesn’t act in accordance with the teachings will pay a price. None of which are peace loving.
I will never have any respect for your theocracy. The agenda of Islam is to rule supreme and to subjugate any country you can when your numbers grow large enough.
Address the honour killing Kenan. Stop evading with your subterfuge.
commented 2016-12-20 22:35:55 -0500
Kenan , Please quote verses about Infidels , Jihad , sharia law and caliphate so we may learn more about your " peaceful " religion ! LMFAO ! MERRY CHRISTMAS !
commented 2016-12-20 22:21:32 -0500
Lol Lisa Rosie actually muslims do follow Christ. He and the virgin Mary are sacred figures in the Quran. Theres actually a whole chapter in the Quran named after Mary detailing the life of Jesus. He is a prophet to us just like Abraham, Noah, Jacob, Moses and Aaron. We dont believe he is the literal son of God but we believe he used the term figuratively and called mankind the children of God. To him we are all sons and daughters of the Lord Most High. Lisa Rosie…who do you think Jesus prayed to in the bible? Himself? May God guide you and open your eyes and cast the darkness for your fellow man from your heart and mind.
commented 2016-12-20 22:18:13 -0500
FRANCIS PEORI good Churchill quote. He was pretty clear in his understanding of the ‘religion of peace’. I sure wish we had a Churchill to get us out of this mess.
commented 2016-12-20 22:13:05 -0500
Maurice Potvin my friend you are the deluded one. You are so fixated on crimes committed by so called muslims that you would condemn one third of the worlds population because of the acts of a few deranged maniacs using scripture to satisfy their bloodlust. You seem to however forget the brutal persecution of pagans by the christian roman empire, the massacres committed in the crusades and the inquisition in which well over 2 million people died. The witch hunts which massacred another million innocent people. The catholic protestant war. The democide of indigenous people from australia to north america which is in the tens of millions. Slavery of the southern americas and african people which killed tens of more millions of people. Not to forget world war 1 and 2. All of these atrocities committed non stop since the creation of christianity by christians but do you see muslims condemning all christians. Do you see us vilifying your book and all its violent passages. I feel actually sorry for you lot and the ignorance thats permeated this thread. Its been proven that you are more likely to be killed by a mosquito bite than to be killed by a muslim extremist so lets ban mosquitos or destroy them en masse before they kill us all. It sounds stupid doesn’t it but that is actually how you sound to the rest of us logical people.
commented 2016-12-20 22:12:32 -0500
KENAN YUSUF stop wasting our time. You know darn well that Christians are not killing their sisters to appease the family name, or shooting non believers or driving them down in the streets. Stop with your relativism it doesn’t work, and it’s weak.
Muslims do not follow Christ. What an insult.
commented 2016-12-20 22:07:35 -0500
KENAN YUSUF you have convinced me of Mo’s integrity. A real stand up guy that Mo. When did you come to Canada or was it your parents we brought here? You fail to mention any of Mo’s extra curricular activities. Why is that. Could it be because you’re cool with them?
So what part of honour killings do you think Canadians should just accept as a part of your culture , and shut up about it?

Damn I will never pick up another Michener, again.
All of the authors you cut and pasted are delusional. Thanks for posting though, and please do so again. Yeah, Mo is a great guy. The next thing you are going to try to tell us is that Islam is a religion of peace, in a thread about two murdered Muslim girls by their Muslim brother. I wish more than anything that the theocracy of Islam wasn’t infecting my country. It is not welcome here by most, and eventually those who have brought this about will understand that it was a mistake.
commented 2016-12-20 21:54:21 -0500
Ron how ironic your last name is christenson and yet muslims whom u hate follow christ better than you do.
commented 2016-12-20 21:52:59 -0500
Leviticus 11:7-8 ESV /
And the pig, because it parts the hoof and is cloven-footed but does not chew the cud, is unclean to you. You shall not eat any of their flesh, and you shall not touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you.

Leviticus 11:1-47 ESV
And the Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying to them, “Speak to the people of Israel, saying, These are the living things that you may eat among all the animals that are on the earth. Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among the animals, you may eat. Nevertheless, among those that chew the cud or part the hoof, you shall not eat these: The camel, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you. And the rock badger, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you. …

Isaiah 65:2-4 ESV /
I spread out my hands all the day to a rebellious people, who walk in a way that is not good, following their own devices; a people who provoke me to my face continually, sacrificing in gardens and making offerings on bricks; who sit in tombs, and spend the night in secret places; who eat pig’s flesh, and broth of tainted meat is in their vessels;
commented 2016-12-20 20:41:44 -0500
Peter Netterville I couldn’t agree more and I would add; sharia law IS mental illness
commented 2016-12-20 20:38:14 -0500
Oh yeah I almost forgot Kenan , I was going to invite you over for Christmas but with all that hate in you I think I will enjoy smoked ham alone now . It has a little bacon on top . I was going to show you my new guard dog also but he doesn’t like hateful people like you . Oh well