April 29, 2015

Vancouver marijuana dispensaries: How do you regulate something that's illegal?

Marissa SemkiwArchive

Marijuana dispensaries have popped up around Vancouver for a few years.

Last week the city said it will start regulating them. Vancouver city councilors voted in favour of referring illegal marijuana dispensaries to a public hearing.

Ada Slivinski joins Marissa Semkiw to talk about the 80 illegal dispensaries and how we got to this point.

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commented 2015-05-04 16:00:13 -0400
To the victor go the spoils
This should apply to the Marijuana revolution as well.
We have them down and by the throat. Let’s finish ’em off NOW.

No licenses should go to people that weren’t involved in this victory.

Only those who lost jobs or were incarcerated etc should get our support $$$ Period. We are a cohesive group and if we boycott those pretenders shops, they will soon be out of business.

I read about one investor that owned over 60 licenses. Boo and boycott.

Those $30,000 licenses will be worthless real fast.
commented 2015-05-02 22:23:02 -0400
I don’t know Atoken. Maybe it should be legalized, but I don’t think these dispensaries are any answer to any problem. Most people will grow out of it and /or just smoke recreationally, some smoke regularly and seem to function well enough, some smoke chronic and well, are chronic, and some have arrested emotional development. Then there are some who have arrested emotional development and psychotic episodes, and not just a small portion of the pop. There is a lot more info out there these days about the side effects of pot. It is a harmless herb to some, and a dangerous drug to others. Is legalizing it going to make a whole society stupider than it already is, beats me. Will some kids be adversely affected, they already are, so will any of it really make any difference?
But pretending these dispensaries have any value , is crazy to me. If you can tell me why these dispensaries for “medicinal” pot are a good idea, I would be interested .
commented 2015-04-30 23:27:56 -0400
Wow, at least they didn’t start the predictable “But what about the CHILDREN!” chant that Rona Ambrose was starting up. These ladies really show their incredulity well, but the city council is just reacting to reality in the absence of the “senior” level of government doing anything about it. The problems they talk about; the taxation issue, the selling to children issue, all of that is addressed by the city council’s action. Marissa and Ada seem almost blown away by the audacity of the local government, but don’t talk at all about what the federal government’s actions to solve these problems are. Just repeating “but it’s against the LAW!” over and over again isn’t making the problems of untaxed (illegal) business and the accessibility of pot to minors any better. The federal government, with these ladies as cheerleaders, has the opinion that prohibition is working, somehow, and despite all evidence to the contrary. The city of Vancouver is trying to deal with real issues as they see it from their level. The federal government is just, well, blind to reality when it comes to pot. If anyone, say Grieg or Liza could show us how the current prohibition is helping, please speak up!
commented 2015-04-30 11:52:56 -0400
Gee, I wonder why people do drugs and alcohol, always have, always will. Don’t they know that reality comes in a box? I see them laughing and having a good time an I want to shout, “STOP, you’re outside the box!”
commented 2015-04-30 01:01:17 -0400
Dave Bainard – selling drugs, including the pot sold by elementary students in our schools, is dealt, with arms and human slaves, by the enemies of democracy in mob, cartels, and terrorist organizations including ISIS. What better way to take over than to drug your opponents?
commented 2015-04-29 23:19:26 -0400
Young chronic smokers are basically emotionally and developmentally challenged, at the very least. Some come out of it, others with certain hereditary predispositions do not. It is a factor in the mental illness of our youth.
commented 2015-04-29 22:24:53 -0400
Good to see you Ada.
commented 2015-04-29 22:23:20 -0400
You don’t need to get stoned to get the medicinal benefits. These dispensaries are just a joke, a way to keep people stupid and stoned. Smoking pot will put more tar and crap in your lungs than cigarettes. If it was truly for medicinal purposes it would not be offered for smoking. THC, is what makes you stoned, there are many other medicinal properties which do not get you stoned, and if anyone was serious about this they would not be selling it in these dispensaries for any stoner to walk into.
Get caught smoking in public, you should better be of age, and a ticket should suffice. People grow it,buy it and smoke it, but no one should pretend that these dispensaries are anything more than cheap, B grade pot for losers.
commented 2015-04-29 21:08:33 -0400
I just received a CKNW (Vancouver talk radio) news alert with the headline that ‘Police pay visit to Vancouver pot shop’
I was startled to read the entire alert and find that no, they didn’t make a purchase, they actually made several arrests.
commented 2015-04-29 21:01:46 -0400
Sheesh, I thought that headline read: “Vancouver marijuana degenerates: ….”
commented 2015-04-29 20:52:37 -0400
You can allow something illegal and regulate it, if nobody stops you. But that’s not the real question. The real question was avoided by Marissa and Ada. I’m sure the real question will be avoided by the government, as well. Nobody wants to weigh in on the wrong side of the real question. Both sides could be the wrong side, for some interests. If you didn’t stop something illegal, it’s unlikely you will stop the regulation of that illegal thing. Hey, I avoided the real question, too.
commented 2015-04-29 20:26:34 -0400
Of course the police aren’t going to bust the buyers. They would have to use BC Place stadium just for holding “cells”. I’m sure the nearby convenience stores don’t mind because they know that sales of snack food will easily keep them afloat. Maybe they need another 500 of these “stores” throughout the Greater Vancouver area to flood the market and maybe curb some of the gang problems down there. Then maybe it will become apparent in the rest of the country that the war on drugs has been lost and laws against pot will become null and void. Put the police dollars to something more relevant like terrorism or distracted driving. I would bet that if the pot was so easily available eventually a lot of tokers would just loose interest in it. Something I noticed in Germany years ago were kids in pubs with their parents and all seemed normal. The kids were learning to grow up responsibly and didn’t turn into drunks. Make it easier for the tokers and hopefully the responsible factor will appear.
commented 2015-04-29 20:03:56 -0400
Ada, it is wonderful to see you beautiful smiling face again. Hope you keep contributing to theRebel!
commented 2015-04-29 19:21:43 -0400
During the 1990s under the Alan Rock Health Ministry, the Toronto Compassion Club, then the Medical Marijuana Research Centre, was given a grant to sell marijuana on the St George Campus of the University of Toronto where I worked.

I went to a couple of their parties (no drugs were passed out.). But I was shocked by the volume of marijuana right out in the open and by the two cops stationed outside to guard the operation.

What they required from anyone buying drugs was not a Health Canada card but a doctor’s note. Lots of doctors will prescribe and they take the heat off crime as the Crown won’t prosecute doctors.

Don’t forget the doctors, Marissa. They too commit criminal acts.

Then around 2001-2002, the Toronto Club was attacked on New Years Eve by five men with baseball bats wearing bella clavas. They stole all their product. Even though the one staff tore the bella clava off one of the offenders and got his face on film, police made no arrests. Some of the staff suffered concussion so badly were they beaten. They tried to pressure police to make arrests of the offenders but instead, police arrested the TCC staff and charged them with a variety of offences.

Turned out the CEO had a criminal record in Switzerland. Rumour was they were selling pot out front, cocaine in the back.

But the club survived (and there are lots more in Toronto and Hamilton has a pot cafe). Here is their website: http://www.torontocompassioncentre.org
commented 2015-04-29 18:56:45 -0400
It seems the Vancouver municipal government has decided not to obey federal government laws when it comes to pot. In contrast, the federal government of 1935 was quick to spring to action when the newly elected Social Credit government of Alberta was ready to issue new money to people who were greatly suffering due to the great depression. True, the issues are different, but the basic question is: does a subordinate government has the right to disobey a superior government law?
commented 2015-04-29 17:05:07 -0400
Liberals at their finest. Infamous for their brown bags of cash, now in cahoots with the dope trade. The Progs must get seriously ripped to dream up these creative, “revenue tools”, and actually put them forth with a straight face. By chance, was that footage of the Council meeting shot at a heroin injection site?