November 01, 2017

Pro-life student body president impeached — for NOT breaking the law

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Host | The Gunn Show


A student body president in Ireland has just been impeached because she is pro-life and didn't want to break the law.

Katie Ascough never hid her pro-life proclivities when she ran for student union president at the University College of Dublin, but said also promised to maintain the pro-choice mandate of the student’s union if elected.

Impeachment proceedings against Ascough began after unsolicited material containing contact information about abortion providers and morning after pill-retailers — all based out of the country — were published in the handbook/magazine distributed to students every year.

Providing information on abortion overseas is strictly regulated in Ireland. Ascough sought legal advice and, according to her account, acted on that advise by removing the abortion information.

Angry pro-choice activists accused her of censoring their message and began a campaign to impeach her.

This week she was stripped of her democratically elected position because she followed the law.

But this is just another battle we’ve lost in the left’s war on pro-life women.

Watch my video to see more examples.

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commented 2017-11-05 13:30:41 -0500
She was democratically elected by the students’ votes, and was democratically removed by the same students’ votes. Just shows that the support for pro-life movement is shrinking even in a catholic country like Ireland. There is no point to bemoan and point fingers. Instead it must be acknowledged that the pro-life movement has failed to make its case for the people and needs new ways to convey its message.
commented 2017-11-03 06:48:47 -0400
Space Moose, your right “to clean up the trash” as you put it and abortionists “protecting women” is a sad argument. Ignoring Sanger’s ideology is an example of how the left are caught in a pattern of cognitive dissonance.
Planned parenthood has a very nasty history, and, Sanger felt very comfortable with the violent terrorist branch of the Democratic Party – yeah the KKK.
commented 2017-11-03 04:14:59 -0400
Why yes, I have bothered to learn the history of Margaret Sanger. Because of her, it’s my body, and my choice. I owe my right to an abortion to that woman.
commented 2017-11-02 19:12:04 -0400
Space Moose, what an incredibly odd thing to say, according to your logic, abortionists can forsee who will be “trash”! Wow, how do they do that?!!!!!
THE MOTHER OF BLACK GENOCIDE..MARGARET SANGER..FOUNDER OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYNFoB3d0P8
commented 2017-11-02 18:25:06 -0400
I don’t blame Marager Sanger for what she did. She had her mother beat to death by society’s trash. Good thing abortion cleans up the trash to protect women.
commented 2017-11-02 17:18:19 -0400
Andrew also said to Drew, "They shouldn’t be any sort of advocacy group, but merely impartial providers of information. As I said, list all the family planning clinics and leave the choice to the people as to who to call. "

Andrew, you are purposeful in setting aside the laws in Ireland.
commented 2017-11-02 15:45:34 -0400
Andrew Stephenson said in part,“We are fortunate to have among the greatest freedoms in the world on that front, and the fact that we do have the strongest protections for personal autonomy is not something to be ashamed of.”

I don’t think there is anything fortunate about setting no limits, and, this is nothing to be proud of.
commented 2017-11-02 12:15:06 -0400
“Drew Wakariuk commented 10 hours ago
Andrew nor are they a pro choice group. The left wing aholes blaming her should speak to the ones who make the law. "
I agree, the law should be the penultimate target, but it’s not like you can’t do both.

They shouldn’t be any sort of advocacy group, but merely impartial providers of information. As I said, list all the family planning clinics and leave the choice to the people as to who to call.

Leviticus 20:13 commented 15 hours ago"
Nope.. somebody has to stick up for the life of that child… Anyway you slice it abortion is murder. "
It’s your prerogative to think so, but from a legal standpoint the woman’s personal autonomy has time and again been the higher priority.

Space Moose:
" They would hold up their signs and large images of dead babies. In retrospect"
The reason for this is very simple. There’s nothing else they can do. The Supreme Court decision is not going to be revisited anytime soon, probably ever. The milder advocacy strategies don’t change anybody’s minds and they know it. The shock tactics are pretty much all they have and even that mostly serves to “preach to the converted”, and piss everyone else off.

Tammie, the lack of limits is based in the nature of the SCoC ruling, which is to say that the government can never impose on your personal autonomy. Abortion limits of any sort, which represent such an imposition, are basically in violation of the ruling and are therefore unconstitutional. We are fortunate to have among the greatest freedoms in the world on that front, and the fact that we do have the strongest protections for personal autonomy is not something to be ashamed of.
commented 2017-11-02 06:49:54 -0400
Space Moose, the abortion industry is anti-woman (yes, it’s an industry with it’s own Trade Show every spring). Research the history of Planned Parenthood, it’s founder, Margaret Sanger was a racist eugenicist.

Years ago, I was passing by a Pro-Life demonstration and asked about the images of dead babies. The person holding the sign took the time to explain most Canadians don’t realize Canada is one of the few countries that doesn’t set limits. The graphic imagery is a conversation starter, and, a stark reminder of what is happening.

Moose, unless you have a uterus, abortion decisions are not in your hands.
commented 2017-11-02 04:08:52 -0400
I can’t stand pro life activists. I can still remember driving to the university of Manitoba. The activists would stand in the middle of University crescent. They would hold up their signs and large images of dead babies. In retrospect, I wish I would have given the pro life activists the finger while I drove by.

Some people really do have too much time on their hands. Gee, the university if always on strike. Text books are super expensive. The profs are a bunch of closed minded leftists. The student union is draining student wallets to fund mandatory bus passes. There is affirmative action in some faculties. But what does the right wing do? Stand in the middle of the road with some signs. What the hell did they think was going to happen? That I would ever change my mind on whether or not I will get an abortion.

The right wing needs to fight more important battles. When the right wing goes after abortion, it confirms that the right wing is anti woman.
commented 2017-11-02 01:46:07 -0400
Andrew nor are they a pro choice group. The left wing aholes blaming her should speak to the ones who make the law.
commented 2017-11-02 01:43:43 -0400
Andrew she did no such thing , the law forced her to. Do you even know how to read?
commented 2017-11-01 21:28:47 -0400
Muffin said…
Do you disagree that the best solution is to provide contact information for all planning options, and let people decide for themselves which they will call? Or do you support selective censorship of dissent?….
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Nope.. somebody has to stick up for the life of that child… Anyway you slice it abortion is murder. We are not talking about terminating puppies piglets are breaking a couple eggs for omelets we are talking about the lives of human beings. Can you imagine a child who is saved at the last minute at the beginning of the second trimester because the law changed and mom couldn’t get an abortion so she put the child up for adoption… 22 years later the child finds out that she and her life was spared and this beautiful young successful married woman went on to live a happy life with two loving adopted parents and grandchildren on the way..
I wonder what she thinks of abortion laws or better yet I wonder what she thinks of her biological mother.
Like I said we’re not just cracking a couple eggs for breakfast..
Don’t want to get pregnant..?? Be responsible… just another reason why teens and preteens shouldn’t be sexualized or have sex.. three or four drinks at a party that could never happen to them… They could never get pregnant.
commented 2017-11-01 19:06:09 -0400
Andrew Stephenson, it’s hardly the responsibility Katie Ascough to challenge a law in court at her own expense, particularly a law that she fundamentally supports. It would be completely illogical for her to do that, and you know full well that it would be. I won’t insult your intelligence by asking you if you actually believe what you just said. I know you don’t…. you’re not that stupid. If you don’t like Ireland’s abortion laws, perhaps you could fly to Ireland and challenge the laws yourself. I’m not interested in debating this issue with you as it would accomplish nothing, except perhaps to stroke your ego. You know where I stand and I know where you stand, and nothing I say will change that. But your comments are completely illogical.
commented 2017-11-01 18:59:14 -0400
Tammie,

Actually I expect Andrew to throw $150 to the JCCF to protect freedom of speech for pro-life groups since It is so pro-speech. After all, anti-life groups, like pro-choice have all the funding they need from government. So throw a helping hand Andy. Otherwise, your last statement in your first post shows your hypocracy.

I also note in Andy’s posts, It never watched the video. The video was about how true feminists are marginalized.
commented 2017-11-01 18:22:16 -0400
Canadian Mongrel, isn’t it funny that a Canadian woman is boiling it down to Joe Citizen can challenge the legislation in the courts “this could be a great way to have those laws struck down”.
Joe Citizen indeed!
Anyway, Andrew’s posts have nothing to do with the report, and, the fact the Student Union President was impeached for following the law. Not Andrew’s law, Ireland’s law!
commented 2017-11-01 18:05:36 -0400
Tammie,

Ireland is a common law jurisdiction, as is Canada, the US, and the UK. This means that Joe Citizen can challenge legislation in the courts. This could be a great way to have those laws struck down.

Mongrel, there’s nothing in my post that contradicts it. Information should be available. I have no problem with pro-life groups being listed alongside in the directory, leaving the choice up to the individual as to whom to call (it’s called “pro-choice”, not “pro abortion”. Pro choice leaves it in the hands of the individual. Pro abortion, or pro life, is top-down dictate in which someone else is making that decision for you). Not listing abortion providers negatively impacts that ability to choose, which is of course an infringement in individual autonomy.
commented 2017-11-01 18:05:13 -0400
All knowing one, did you listen to the video Shelia posted? If you did, what does your post have to do with the video? If you didn’t, you’re posting to be “obnoxious”
commented 2017-11-01 17:30:20 -0400
Tammie,

Don’t bother with Andrew. If you read the last paragraph of its first post you will note that Andrew contradicted its own argument better than the rest of us, like it always does. However, good for a laugh as always.
commented 2017-11-01 15:05:43 -0400
Andrew Stephenson, once again you have posted comments without the benefit of Sheila’s entire report. You really should research the laws in Ireland Andrew.
Ascough sought legal advice; Ireland’s laws regarding distributing unsolicited abortion information is illegal. The lawyer advised that it would be prudent to avoid proceeding with the current handbook, which contained information on the illegal procedure of abortion.

Additional information on this case:
The abortion information in the handbook could cost the school upwards of tens of thousands of euro in fines. Distribution of the illegal information could have also resulted in criminal convictions for dozens of school administrators, who also could have been fined up to €4,000 each.
She had the backing of the Board of Directors as well, which supported the re-printing of the handbooks, which amounted to nearly €7,000. Ascough believed this cost was worth the potential risk of fines the school could have received if they left the handbooks as they were.

Ascough said that the campaign to remove her began before she even took office.
commented 2017-11-01 13:47:11 -0400
- Ireland fought so hard for so long for their independence only to immediately hand it over to globalists. Murdering babies is a sacred cow of the left. It takes priority over everything else. The machinery of leftist policy is oiled with the blood of the innocent.
commented 2017-11-01 13:07:16 -0400
A lot less knowledgeable, presumably. It’s still unclear what, exactly, your objection is, or if you’re just being obnoxious because you can’t refute my comments.

Do you disagree that the best solution is to provide contact information for all planning options, and let people decide for themselves which they will call? Or do you support selective censorship of dissent?
commented 2017-11-01 12:22:38 -0400
Oh my, what would this world be without all knowing Andrew enlightening us on the ways of the world according to all knowing Andrew. It’s clear that comprehension is not a strong point for all knowing Andrew
commented 2017-11-01 11:44:32 -0400
If you’re going to argue that North American student unions are censoring pro-life groups, then it’s hypocritical to complain that someone’s gotten in trouble for censoring pro-choice ones elsewhere.

It’s not a war on pro life groups to demand information on abortion providers be provided. The student union is NOT a pro-life advocacy group and it’s not their place to be making moral judgements on who can access what information.