June 12, 2017

Why Muslim refugees are more likely to become Islamic terrorists

Tanveer AhmedRebel Commentator

I grew up in a Muslim household. I was born in Bangladesh but raised in Australia.

We weren’t terribly religious and I’d now call myself an atheist, or maybe a cultural Muslim.

Muslims in the West are raised in an ambivalence to their host societies. We’re taught to blame all our problems on the West. We’re told to avoid mainstream society because it’s seen as morally corrupt.

This breeds a degree of resentment and identity disturbance for many Muslim kids.

Now, for the most part, especially in countries like Canada or Australia where we prioritize migrants with skills, that sense of resentment is diluted as Muslims gain an education, job and families.

However, this is also why refugees have been more likely to conduct attacks.

Refugees are not innately sinister. I treat many of them in my work. However they are less likely to rise up the social ladder and more likely to have histories of trauma.

For these and other reasons, they are at greater risk of becoming radicalised.

While the vast majority of Muslims won’t be interested in violence, their beliefs have a strong resonance with those of terrorists.

It pains me to say it, because I’m talking about my relatives and friends, but Muslims wrap their identity so closely around Islam that it’s not easy for them to challenge the ideas within it.

Let me clear:

The vast majority of Muslims are not the problem, but many ideas in Islam are.

But it’s difficult to see then how at least one of the solutions to our problem of terrorism is to have less Islam in our societies.

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commented 2017-06-13 10:13:47 -0400
correction. perpetuate not perpetrate
commented 2017-06-13 09:49:15 -0400
I have to wonder why we tolerate on any level, accepting this hateful ideology into western countries at all?

We are blamed by one faction if we intervene in the name of another. If we don’t intervene there are calls of, “where is the west , why are they leaving us to this slaughter”, and if we intervene there are cries of “murderers!” and constant retaliation. .

We are damned if we do and damned if we don’t. So lets don’t. Let’s Leave Muslims to their wars far away from our home. If native born second generation /converts become troublesome they must be separated from the rest of us.
How do we gain control of this situation when we allow hundreds of Mosques to be built to house and perpetrate the hatred toward the west. Does Islam only exist for its hatred of us? What the hell kind of ‘religion’ is that, and should it be allowed to retain that designation as a religion in our countries?
commented 2017-06-13 09:37:33 -0400
I wonder what Tanveer attributes his successful integration into western civilization to? It seems the information being gathered indicates that second generation children of even ‘cultural’ Muslim immigrant/migrant families tend to turn to fundamentalist Islam, instead of embracing Western values, even if their parents managed to. What can be done about this beside realizing that maybe this is another reason to lean heavily on a ideology which is perpetually angry, and volatile. Zero tolerance to acts in the name of Allah(recognition that these acts of violence are in the name of Allah). I have to wonder why we tolerate on any level, accepting this hateful ideology into western countries at all? Islam belongs in Islamic countries. It has no good business in the west. Ex Muslims ( and those who still identify with aspects of the culture, while totally embracing western culture) are welcome. I would rather we had a whole lot less Islam in my country already.
commented 2017-06-13 00:17:58 -0400
If we in the west are blamed for the damage in their homelands, which is a lie, they are responsible for the appalling conditions in their homelands. And if we are blamed for the poor success they have in western countries. Why the Hell do they keep coming here to live??? The problems they have at home and abroad are all caused by the insanity of their Religious Cult, Islam. And they are apparently too blind and/or stupid to recognize the short comings, restrictions and anti social behavior that their cult places on them. Islam is a Sick, Depraved, Evil Death Cult incapable of getting along with anyone including each other. Currently and in the past they have probably killed more of their own than any other individual group. Wherever Islam is you will find Conflict and that Conflict is something that just keeps on getting bigger, more violent, more intolerant, more controlling until finally you have enslavement. In the near future, I think most countries in the world will all be fighting the same war within their own borders. That war will be one of survival against the Oppression, Enslavement and Genocide that Islam will be inflicting upon us all.
commented 2017-06-12 23:32:28 -0400
Agreed,, TANVEER AHMED. THE solution is to have less Islam in our societies. Islam belongs in Muslim countries. My country is not a Muslim country and I want to keep it from becoming one. That seems fair to me. Our Prime Minister calls me a racist, bigoted xenophobe for feeling the way I do about wanting to keep my country Islam free. Canada welcomes people from around the world. Regardless of what our PM is broadcasting, Canadians do not want Islam in their country. Islam just does not fit into our culture, values or political structure.
commented 2017-06-12 23:27:45 -0400
In addition, "success does not guarantee to allegiance. Weren’t the majority of the 911 sky devils “successful” i.e, well educated.
commented 2017-06-12 22:47:49 -0400
Muslims decry marginalization, but in fact are ‘self-marginalized’.
commented 2017-06-12 21:53:20 -0400
Bill Elder, well said!
commented 2017-06-12 21:40:16 -0400
Mr. Ahmed – I still think the politically correct factions soft soap the compatibility of Islamics with Western society/culture – it is a strained relationship at best – as you say there is resentments and self imposed apartheid with people they see as morally inferior. This begs the question; “then why come to a nation of infidels”?? We both know the answer to that. It is a mindset of taking the material comforts our culture has made but rejecting our culture as “inferior”. That is a very conflicted and dishonest type of citizenship to begin with.

We add to that the inherent resentment (which you say subsides as success is gained) whic can also worsen as success in this society fails. The refugees we have imported are mostly unskilled and language handicapped – maybe not an insurmountable obstacle for young migrants but a recipe for failure for middle aged migrants. AS you say the jihad problem is latent in the Islamic psyche and it us driven by a susceptibility and availability to radicalization.

That essentially makes every unsuccessful or alienated Islamic migrant a potential Jihadi suicider. The radicalizers and jihad recruiters know it too – this is why they proselytize in jails, muslim ghettos and on the Arab language internet.
commented 2017-06-12 20:31:45 -0400
Thanks Tanveer, I appreciate your commentary.
commented 2017-06-12 19:43:12 -0400
If all Muslims were like this, Canada would be a safer place, unfortunately…….

Earlier today I watched a video of Tommy Robinson leading a march of 6,000 people, through the streets of Manchester. They were protesting the recent attacks at London Bridge and Manchester. As they marched they, at one point, chanted that old song Living Next Door To Alice, only they were chanting the words that were added to the song at a later date and they were not using the name Alice.

Allah, Allah, Who the Fuck is Allah was their version. Unfortunately this is what happens when people are pushed far enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSKEo-fBLIc

This is the video.
commented 2017-06-12 19:23:16 -0400
Islamic doctrine clearly commands Muslims to live in Muslim lands. By their own religious doctrine, if a nation is Kuffar, they are forbidden to permanently reside in it; especially if they are living off of welfare.
If a nation is not ordered under Sharia Law and the will of Muhammad, Muslims are commanded by their Imams and doctrine to leave it and make Hijrah to a Muslim majority land where Sharia is the law of the land.

According to their own doctrine, Muslims who live permanently in filthy Kuffar lands, without performing Jihad or Daw’ah, are considered to be apostates by Islamic doctrine and are destined to hell in the afterlife if they do not make Hijrah to Muslim majority lands.

Why are “devout” Muslims not obeying this fundamental command of their religion?

“Qu’ran Demands Muslims Leave Britain [the West]” (12 minutes):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AQTDXF-UXDU&ebc=ANyPxKry1eh6RJ6hQNmzmE30IFzAKJK28D6D7wNU_p07mDL4cr7Ao8q5h_jrMcp1Qde6wkHrJVA3nmKU8_0J90aHcWUouslPnA
commented 2017-06-12 19:20:53 -0400
From the Horse’s mouth.
commented 2017-06-12 18:52:35 -0400
Art Vandelay well said, takes a special kind of asshole indeed. The part that irks me the most is that all the people who push for those things never take responsibility for the consequences of them, it is always someone elses fault or they claim to be poor victims, as if you can be a victim of yourself. Occupy Edmonton made me laugh when i went to counter protest, all the hypocrites with their smartphones and starbucks and designer clothes whining about others getting rich.
commented 2017-06-12 18:34:02 -0400
Ya, except the last line. The west has been doing it’s darndest to rid itself of Christianity over the last 40-50 years with just fantastic results. Just look at the amazing levels of narcissism, materialism, drug abuse, obesity and senseless violence we have reached thanks to the wise elites. Fantastic.
It takes a special kind of asshole to train wreck such a civilization.
commented 2017-06-12 18:12:37 -0400
Since 9/11 – IN THE NAME OF ISLAM (SATAN): 33,504 Attacks, 216,151 Killed, 297,390 Injured that we know of
commented 2017-06-12 18:11:46 -0400
Tanveer, that is an interesting insight.
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