October 11, 2016

WikiLeaks: Clinton plots gun control by “executive order”

Faith GoldyArchive

Fellow gunnies south of the 49th: If you own a firearm and you’re planning to vote for Hillary Clinton, you might as well hand in your firearm as you cast your ballot.

The latest batch of Wikileaks documents includes one email from Hillary Clinton’s Press Secretary Brian Fallon. In it, Fallon admits that Hillary would “support closing the gun show loophole — by executive order.”

Clinton has long been a supporter of executive gun control; however, it was the fatal mass shooting at Ump-qua Community College that saw her ramp up her rhetoric.

But that Oregon Community college was a gun free zone.

That and other factors means that her executive order would have had zero effect on the attack anyway. Watch and I’ll explain.

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commented 2016-10-15 00:08:43 -0400
Hillary will absolutely put stringent controls on firearms when she gets in. And in addition she will also remove free speech and put in jail or worse anyone who speaks out against her dictatorship. She will sell out the USA in every way to anyone with money to give her. Like I have said before, that she is on a mission of revenge against the American people for what was done to her and Bill during the Monica Lewinski affair.
commented 2016-10-12 17:06:23 -0400
Back to facts here – the emails confirmed that the ideas Clinton was tossing around will be a go through executive order – she is NOT talking about regulatory background checks she openly state she wants to ban 2 commonly owned rifles that are guaranteed to Americans under their 2nd amendment.

This particular rifle is owned by 10s of millions of Americans and has been for over 50 years since Eugene Stoner invented it in 1955 – in that time this rifle in civilian hands was responsible for ZERO, count em, zero crimes – until this last 3 years where it was used by terrorists and drug cartel thugs who Obama illegally armed (fast and furious scandal) and imported into the country and a cop killer who was connected to Black Lives Matter. Why the impetus to remove the civilian version of the US battle rifle now?

The FBI crime stats show you stand a better chance of being hit with lightning than being killed with an AR15. The 1994 Clinton assault weapons ban was repealed because it did nothing to impact firearms homicide rates – because crooks don’t use $1800 hard to conceal rifles in street crime

In the 2008 Heller decision the U.S. Supreme Court affirmed that the Second Amendment guaranteed (not granted) a pre-existing right of individuals to keep and bear arms. Further, it said that the government cannot ban guns which are in common use.

It’s anyone’s guess – but if you can believe the army civil control planning papers it’s because the ruling/political class are expecting mass civil unrest in the coming decade – now why would that be? Unpalatable or unconstitutional laws? UnAmerican/corrupt behavior in the executive branch? Factional in-fighting with the population?

The last thing an elite want when they are planning a coup is a population with the ability/capability of armed resistance/revolt – The evil black guns they are after, are not the common weapon of the street thug, they are the chosen weapon of home defense for the vast majority of middle class Americans – as such they pose more threat to thugs and gangsters and an elite imperialism/despotism than they do to the public safety.

Those who wrote the 2nd amendment knew this from first hand experience
commented 2016-10-12 16:04:14 -0400
“the U.S. suffered a total of 8,813 murders involving the use of firearms that year.” ? ? ?

And likely 90% were Illegal Guns in the hands of gang bangers and Illegals . . .
In Chicago alone there have been almost 4000 murders during Obama’s term in office . . . almost ALL black on black gang related . . . and he has done what?
Restricting legal gun owners . . . is the path chosen by despots and diktators . . .
commented 2016-10-12 14:00:53 -0400
I don’t know if Jay is dishonest or just ignorant, but what is left out if how small accidental gun deaths are. You can find data on accidental deaths on the internet, specifically from US government agencies. Accidental gun deaths are under 1000 each year in a population of 300 million plus. Deaths by car accidents are in the high 30,000 and deaths by falling, yes falling, are in the low 30,000. So yes, you can scare people saying accidental gun deaths in the US are 7 times per capita than Canada, but you are about as likely to die by accidental gun shootings as you are as killing yourself while brushing your teeth.

Now there are honest people, like friends of mine on facebook, that I have shared this data with, but even then they have so saturated with stories about children being killed by guns, they just can’t move beyond their subjective belief that guns are dangerous. But if you really care about life, send John Kerry to Putin to put in a prison in Siberia, before he gets US soldiers killed in a needless ramp up of hostilities with Russia.

I’m not going to go down that path to suggest this race or another is more apt to violence. Inner cities like those mentioned are just plainly violent places due to policy failures in those named states.
commented 2016-10-12 14:00:49 -0400
Kelly and Penson are as blank on this subject as a toddler is on quantum math – cut and paste talking points and phony statistics from anti gun orgs, don’t mean anything other than those who spew them are as big a liar as those who created them.

The fact of the matter is that the Americans have a 2nd amendment which has time and again been deemed by the SCUS to protect their right to armed self defense and access to arms for defense – thats’s a fact. Second fact – the crap Hillary and her constitution – hating crew were spewing involved not regulation but bans on commonly owned legal firearms. – unconstitutional

She isn’t talking about background checks she’s talking about bans and arbitrary criminalizing possession
commented 2016-10-12 10:10:53 -0400
Hmmm, Nazi Germany, Soviet Union, North Korea, Red China, Venezuela, Cuba….I could go on, but I HOPE you get the message – FASCISM, TYRANNY, DICTATORIAL, EVIL, ENSLAVEMENT…..

commented 2016-10-12 08:55:59 -0400
To KY Jelly,

It was once said by someone with a hell of a lot more brains than I that:

“There are lies, damned lies and statistics”

Don’t use statistical data to try and prove your point.

Many of the gun crimes occur in cities like Detroit, Chicago and Los Angeles where streets are overrun by gangs of lawless Hispanics and African Americans. This is not to say that all Hispanics and African Americans are bad but the ones that are are very,very bad and they use guns instead of words.

It’s in their genetic make up.

As the say “if your right wife can’t be your right hand then let your right hand be your wife” so KY, why don’t you crawl back to your mother’s basement and speak to your wife.

commented 2016-10-12 03:15:42 -0400
Jay Victor is doing quite a good job doing that.
commented 2016-10-12 01:42:33 -0400
Drew Wakariuk says: “Try some reality. And Victor Lazslo does a great job revealing the truth you want hidden.”

Good for you. Maybe you could try to bring the truth into the light.
commented 2016-10-12 01:34:24 -0400
Jay Kelly we had lower rates when we had less gun control, try looking back farther. And how many of those are commited by legal gun owners. Criminals do not follow the law and in the US the areas with the strictest gun controls have the highest rates of murders. Try some reality. And Victor Lazslo does a great job revealing the truth you want hidden.
commented 2016-10-12 00:47:37 -0400
Mr. Genius commented 1 hour ago that: “There are a lot more leaks than just this. Many of the leaks uncover felonies rather than just voter betrayals like this one. TheRebel should have a ‘daily top-ten’ beat reporter for this subject.”

The “daily top ten” sounds like a good idea but it worked out badly at the hands of Victor Lazslo. The Rebel readers were portrayed as ignorant, even if they had something legitimate to say.

Readers should continue to be critical, even if the forum is weak.

Speak out about the good, the bad and the ugly.
commented 2016-10-12 00:44:58 -0400
No Sean , Hillary Clinton doesn’t deserve to win the White House.
What she truly deserves is a one way ticket to the Big House.
The victims of Bill Clinton, the families of those who lost their lives while she was Secretary of State and most Haitians would agree she belongs in prison.
commented 2016-10-12 00:32:15 -0400
And, that’s why she deserves to win the White House! She will WIN big!
commented 2016-10-12 00:09:42 -0400
In the United States: "According to a StatsCan report from 2012 – the most recent year available – the U.S. suffered a total of 8,813 murders involving the use of firearms that year. Canada, in the same year, recorded just 172 firearms-related homicides.

“When looking at firearm-related homicide rates in comparable countries, Canada’s rate is about seven times lower than that of the United States (3.5 per 100,000 population), although it is higher than several other peer countries. While Canada’s firearm-related homicide rate is similar to those in Ireland and Switzerland, it is significantly higher than the rates in Japan (0.01 per 100,000 population) and the United Kingdom (0.06 per 100,000 population),” states StatsCan’s findings, which do not include Quebec figures."

Seven times lower than the rate in the United States.

Canadians are happy to have strict gun-control.
commented 2016-10-11 23:27:01 -0400
There are a lot more leaks than just this. Many of the leaks uncover felonies rather than just voter betrayals like this one. TheRebel should have a “daily top-ten” beat reporter for this subject. A good drink-from-a-firehose source for leaks stories is:

commented 2016-10-11 23:14:41 -0400
I think TheRebel should be providing Donald Trump with information and facts he could be using in these debates, and how to address these issues.
His staff doesn’t seem to be giving him any ammunition (pardon the pun) to use against Hillary.
commented 2016-10-11 22:41:53 -0400
The leaked E mails specifically are talking about banning types of commonly owned firearms, Clinton has stated that she’s after the AR15. Background checks are already mandatory. And it doesn’t matter what percentage of the public wants to break the 2nd amendment, it won’t happen.
Check it again Pubus, you’re either a liar or a dummy or both.
commented 2016-10-11 22:25:31 -0400
Over 70% of Americans approve of background checks for guns sold online or at gun shows.
No one is talking about talking away your guns. Typical RWNJ hyperbole.
commented 2016-10-11 21:46:16 -0400
NOT A WIKILEAK:…..Donald Trump plans prosecution of Hillary Clinton by executive order.
commented 2016-10-11 21:39:30 -0400
Isn’t being spread
commented 2016-10-11 21:38:01 -0400
Like BRAVO said , why is this message being spread like wildfire in the U S A , in particular the gun states

There are left wing gremlins in my type writer tonight, I swear
commented 2016-10-11 20:45:21 -0400
the Wikileaks Clinton email dump had other revelations in it – like 2 of her top campaign strategists admitting her constituency were dumbed down but not sufficiently to stop Sanders at the balloting.

Contemptible swine run Washington in both party apparatus – she’ll have a shooting war on her hand if she breaks the 2nd amendment – she forgets she’s not throwing plates at her whoring husband now.
commented 2016-10-11 20:40:53 -0400
Killary will spend more time on vacation and in front of congress than in office
commented 2016-10-11 20:33:52 -0400
Removed for violating rule:Be civil. No personal attacks.
commented 2016-10-11 20:24:57 -0400
This needs widest dissemination
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