February 10, 2016

Women in combat? In reality, feminists only want equality "for the fun stuff in life"

Gavin McInnesArchive

There's a new push to allow American women to serve in combat, and include them in the selective service draft.


It's a stupid idea, but I kind of like this debate too, because it's actually calling feminism's bluff.

Do women really want to fight and die in war? Have you ever noticed that women only want equality for the fun stuff in life (like high paying starring roles in Hollywood movies), but you never see them demanding jobs as garbage men and crab fishermen?

I talk to Jim Goad about his article "The Glass Coffin." He's put together all the statistics indicating that men have it worse off than women in almost every category, such as suicide and workplace deaths.

He quotes one of the commenters on his article, who wrote, "Women want to be treated like equals -- but they still want to be treated like women."

Goad adds that feminists don't really want "fairness" and "equality;" their real desire is power.



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commented 2016-02-13 04:02:32 -0500

And here we have it in a nutshell. Men enslaved women. Men enslave women. Men will always enslave women.

That’s you’re argument, over and over, to indict all men ‘ad infinitum’ Even your proposed solution divorces women from men—

“I would like to think… that the women who are enslaved might take matters into their own hands if given the right weapons. Surely there is some requirement for them to do all they can to get free under their own strength…it is always wonderful for any who are enslaved to know there are some ‘out there’ who are willing to get down and dirty with them to bring the enslavers to justice.”

Where? In Syria? Afghanistan? Iraq? Iran? Nigeria? I don’t disagree but this statement reads like a Hollywood screenplay to me. Still, there’s no harm in wishing it to be so.

Whose society are you talking about now? If you expect apologists for middle eastern and salafist/wahhabist African countries’ cultural treatment of women from viewers of The Rebel, then you clearly haven’t been paying attention. Again I repeat: we abhor those attitudes. Or are you talking about Canada—or rather Canadian culture.? As I’ve pointed out, Canadians as a country do not accept mistreatment nor subjugation of women, so all I can conclude here is that you’re speaking of crime. Crime is—inherently—unacceptable to the society who deems certain actions or activities unlawful.

As for slavery—in the form you mention—the history of American slavery— that ended in the American Constitution with the deaths of 500,000+ men during the Civil War. While the books you mention played a minor part, it was wholesale action, promulgated by the Republican party, that ended slavery and brought about the 13th and 15th Amendments to the constitution, abolishing slavery and giving everyone the right to vote regardless of their race or colour or creed. I actually find it disturbing that you are conflating your own situation as a woman with slavery. And this is my point—whose society are you talking about? Your first world problems are now the same as third world subjugation, or that of pre-Civil War America for black people? I know there is slavery of women in the world, but isn’t this the point of Gavin’s video: get a grip! There’s lots of bad shit out there, and here we are splitting hairs because there are more female flight attendants and fewer female santitation workers. Or worse than splitting hairs—creating a crisis where it does not exist!

And yes, the War Effort was ‘in toto’—we united as one to defeat our enemies. But it’s funny that you seem to think that women working in factories was a sacrifice during World War I and WWII (whilst 100’s of thousands of men died on the battlefield); but a man working in a factory today to support his family isn’t somehow as important. In fact, welcome to man-world: you worked in a factory; what’s the big deal? Oh…wait..the big deal was…that you were..a woman?

“…equality does not mean sameness. Women can be equal and different from men…just like men can be equal and different from other men! Why is that so hard to understand? "

Who is arguing otherwise here? Of course women are different from men—in fact it’s leftards who argue otherwise; we’re not homogenizing genders; it’s lefties who do that; in fact now there are many genders and now in some jurisdictions men can claim to be women and walk into your bathrooms and changerooms. I agree with you wholeheartedly—we are different but equal.

“…freedom to choose one’s own direction and the expression of one’s own inherent being and talents unrestrained by cultural and religious limitations. Surely this is something we all want!”

Again, nobody is arguing against this. Who says this shouldn’t be the case? You are actually agreeing with Gavin’s video: not on a point by point basis, but on the thesis: “Women can be equal and different from men.” What’s being pointed out is that neo-feminists seem to be very activist about gender quotas on very specific jobs and not ALL jobs (e.g. CEO’s, management positions, executive positions, POTUS). They are not basing this on a meritocracy—they are basing this on GENDER. If women want those jobs, compete for them, but don’t expect men to kowtow just because you’re a woman. You may feel men have very unappealing qualities due to our testosterone, but that does not preclude the fact that men are very competitive in the workplace. Again—equal opportunity afforded to all, not a gift of equal results. ANd when you get those results (and you will) you will be respected by ALL genders.

“..the equality I speak of relating to women is equality of agency…freedom to choose one’s own direction and the expression of one’s own inherent being and talents unrestrained by cultural and religious limitations. Surely this is something we all want!”

Finally, this last statement actually makes me wonder about your own situation. Because—as I’ve pointed out, as have others—most women proceed unfettered with their ambitions here in Canada. If I ask my wife if she feels whether she has the freedom to choose her own direction, she’ll say “Yes.” If I ask her whether she feels free to express herself and pursue her talents, she’d say yes (and I repeat, she is an Orthodox Christian—and also a pragmatist). So, what is this narrative you keep repeating? Is it your own story? Because, you seem to think you are the only one to experience this ‘freedom’ because you were lucky enough not to find a scum of a man, rather than realizing perhaps men—in Canada and in the West as a whole—aren’t so bad after all; because in my estimation—as a man—that’s the rule, and not the exception.
commented 2016-02-12 21:47:59 -0500
DJ Oats: said"…women in sexual slavery, who are treated like dogs, will only be emancipated one way, and it will mean by spilling blood. And that will be undertaken predominantly by—guess who—men."


Slaves were emancipated…and yes there has to be blood shed…but not only male blood, I think…many women “treated like dogs” don’t live long enough to be emancipated. I would like to think, relative to some other comments on this site, that the women who are enslaved might take matters into their own hands if given the right weapons. Surely there is some requirement for them to do all they can to get free under their own strength. It wouldn’t be the first time that some women have fought back successfully…but admittedly, rare. But yes, it is always wonderful for any who are enslaved to know there are some ‘out there’ who are willing to get down and dirty with them to bring the enslavers to justice. Many women, as well as men, worked hard to free the slaves south of the border. It required bloodshed, politics, proliferation of IDEAS, correction of erroneous ‘religious’ ideology, journalism, righteous anger, …and the caring mobilization of hundreds of ordinary people to run the underground railroad…Harriet Beecher Stowe didn’t shed her own blood, but the little bestselling book she wrote was instrumental in raising up an army against slavery (Uncle Tom’s Cabin)( a million copies were sold in Britain at the time)…Everyone, from the president to the smallest child worked to end slavery…it is no different today. Men may fight the wars but they are not alone or without support. We all need to do our part to help when we can with our own special abilities…there are many avenues that can mobilize a nation against such things…( I hasten to add that women built bombs, worked in factories, worked as spies and as code breakers during the last wars…there are many ways we can work together without upstaging one another)…

and yes, mothers can be abusive and destructive to children as well as fathers…pity the poor children who are dealt this hand…and help if you can.

And to beat a dead horse…for the concept is repeated here over and over…equality does not mean sameness. Women can be equal and different from men…just like men can be equal and different from other men! Why is that so hard to understand? The equality I speak of relating to women is equality of agency…freedom to choose one’s own direction and the expression of one’s own inherent being and talents unrestrained by cultural and religious limitations. Surely this is something we all want!
commented 2016-02-12 15:01:12 -0500
Well if they want true equality then they should be signed up for the draft. PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
commented 2016-02-12 13:41:06 -0500
Until I see college girls smearing their face with grease paint for battle instead of menstrual blood and screeching about some fantasy offense/oppression, I will continue to call feminism what it is, feminism is the irrational loudmouth bravado of a hate filled hypocritical coward screeching from the safety of a platform provided for them by men of true courage and conviction.
commented 2016-02-12 09:29:48 -0500
JUDY – I’m not sure if butting into a conversation on a public message board somehow inappropriate, but as far as context goes—the premise was unclear but you’ve now articulated it more clearly, so apologies, though I will take objection to your intimation that abusive parents only come in the form of fathers directed at their daughters. There are plenty of abusive mothers (and fathers) and plenty of sons who undergo similar abuses both emotionally and certainly physically—can we please not make the gender conflict solely about one or the other? If you seek peer-reviewed data on domestic violence I recommend PASK, which is a summary of 1,700 peer reviewed papers and 12,000 on domestic violence with very comprehensive data for Canada, USA and UK, i.e. “the West.”

Otherwise, thank you for expanding on your argument; I felt your initial posting was a bit hysterical and condescending: you’re on a site where freedom is held as an inalienable right; for women and men both. We all have stories and histories that can be inspiring and outrageous; our parents and grandparents lived in different times, and from generation to generation they’ve passed their wisdom to ours and we take that wisdom and make a better society with it. I think the point many here are making is that evolving values occur through education and occur organically through strong communities and like-minded vision. Conversely, many of us here feel so-called ‘progressives’ foment an ideology that tears away at these values through critical theory and moral relativism and seek to replace them with socialist solutions that ultimately dissolve the individual—and the individual responsibility—of a person and replace that with a collectivist mentality. Critical theory is a well established modus operandi for many feminists, and obviously aimed at men.

You’re quite right—there are cultures out there that don’t grant these freedoms to women; we abhor them. But i can tell you one thing—these women, women in sexual slavery, who are treated like dogs, will only be emancipated one way, and it will mean by spilling blood. And that will be undertaken predominantly by—guess who—men. I’ll wager those men will be Western men, mostly white, and they’ll be dying for egalitarianism and freedom, not feminism; though of course by fighting for freedom, that will include your right identify as a feminist, and critique those very same men, their culture, the “wars [we] make,” just as they did in the wars before now, because people in Western society feel those things are worth dying for. Have a great day!
commented 2016-02-12 06:41:44 -0500
Construction workers , no women, our feminists should go seek gender equality in the midlle-east boonies .
commented 2016-02-12 00:41:24 -0500
I agree with all your points related to power, not equality. However I have to question your methods. You seem to be fighting feminism on feminist terms. Stateing “Women should also be given %50 of jobs in Sanitation.” When in actuality you’d make a stronger point arguing against socialism. Stateing that women should not need seats set as side for them, or the bar lowered for them. Rather just the door left open to them to get the job on equal terms with men. I’ve worked with a lot of women within the male dominated work force wh got their job on merit alone, pleaing no special case. That is fairness and true feminism, in which communist feminists can’t balk at without being obviously sexist. It’s honestly a FAR stronger play, than your approach.
commented 2016-02-12 00:37:09 -0500
Sure. Women should be drafted into the military. If they want to fight, let them. Send them into combat – be my guest. And once these feminists are surrounded by explosions, whizzing bullets, and Islamist soldiers ready to rape them, they’ll realize that the great feminist experiment wasn’t all it was cracked up to be. As for the male soldiers, well, they’re all dead. They were too busy, either, defending their female comrades when they couldn’t do it themselves. Or, their female comrades got them all killed. Never have Muhammad’s guys had so much raping to do. They’ll be way too tired for those 72 virgins.
commented 2016-02-11 21:13:01 -0500
With what is now happening with Europe the rest of the world will get to witness feminism being put to the test. That false ideology has very little chance of survival over there under that kind of pressure. Starting to hear some women there asking why their men aren’t fighting for them.
commented 2016-02-11 20:58:25 -0500
Judy, my point about my mother and great aunt’s roles in WW1 and 2, was that women don’t have to be in a combat role to be doing important and supportive work.
commented 2016-02-11 20:48:45 -0500
Lea Wheeler, those Kurdish girls are pretty impressive alright! I can see an all girl troop being effective. One of my concerns with women in combat (and firefighters) is that being the physically weaker sex, they would be unable or less able to carry a burly wounded fellow soldier out of harms way. An all girl troop wouldn’t have as much of a problem (girls carrying girls). And male soldiers wouldn’t have to concern themselves with overcoming their male as protector of woman role in combat, potentially putting themselves in danger. I don’t believe for a moment that women can’t be excellent sharp shooters, or any other trained and practised skill. These Kurdish women are highly motivated, and I could see American or Canadian all female troops being effective also.

For the Kurdish women, its on their doorstep, they grew up with war being on their doorstep, so I can understand the urgency of their desire to join in the fight. I really admire and respect that. They are doing it for their children’s future, but there will be no children if they all get killed.

Lea, it really does make you shake your head seeing all those strong young male ‘refugees’ fleeing their country for a better life. You think they would want to stay and fight for their families and their home.
commented 2016-02-11 20:20:25 -0500
I hope you get that worked out for yourself Judy.
Regarding growing up in a less than perfect environment. It accomplishes one of two things, it either makes you a perpetual victim, or eventually makes you a survivor. And when the chip blows off ‘ones’ shoulder, into a winner. That’s it that’s all. Choose life or choose death.
commented 2016-02-11 19:51:29 -0500
Anyone noticed how many men are running away in the Middle east instead of staying to to fight THEIR war. If the world continues to allow Islam to spread you can forget, “Western Culture is by far the most progressive and equal for women in ALL of history.” Sharia courts which appear to be springing up everywhere will allow the abuse of women as never before. It will be legal to sexually abuse small children and marry girls off at thirteen; for husband to beat up their wives with no explanation for their conduct. We are going to need women to fight off this degradation that we will be facing in the very near future if not on the battle fields at least with our votes
for anyone apposing such imported, religious freedoms
commented 2016-02-11 19:13:44 -0500
D.J.Oats"Western Culture is by far the most progressive and equal for women in ALL of history." Absolutely…I agree with much you said, and yes..a majority of women do have it really good in our culture…including me. This is all true…but irrelevant to many.
Lisa Rosie…I never said women are generally second class citizens…only that in some enclaves of our society they certainly are raised believing they are inferior…and upbringing imprints…"Jones was raised in a home where she was “belittled” by her father"…yet her “enclave” appears to be a normal middle class Canadian home and she was a university graduate from Carlton…so don’t be so sure women are being raised in homes that teach equality, even in this ‘advanced’ culture. Sorry to be a thorn in the ointment ladies but I grieve for these women…and what their lives might have been had they believed they were equal from the beginning☺…
commented 2016-02-11 17:59:59 -0500
LRosie…your comment made me smile…don’t you just love courageous women? In another country… some women have to hide in the crops with loaded rifles while their husbands do the farming to protect the men from their enemies…they kill the husbands so the women will have to sell their farms…and they can buy them and encroach upon the border of their country.
commented 2016-02-11 17:57:38 -0500
DJOATS…Your whole comment is that of someone who butts into another conversation without knowing the context.

I blame no one but the murderer for the murder…don’t put words in my mouth. I was trying to show another person that these things go on, (not murders, but lives lived with psychopaths) all the time, while she seems to think everything is rosy. I say, no…nothing can stop the desperation in which some women (and men sometimes)live…Even Donna Jones’ mother, with whom she spoke regularly, didn’t know what was happening because the ’husband’s manipulative control was so all powerful that Donna Jones could speak of his atrocities to no one, through fear he would harm them too because she alone knew how dreadfully evil he was…I know of other women in circumstances, much less dangerous, but nevertheless controlled, who live in daily struggle just trying not to offend the whims of certain men in their lives…and some who will never be free from fear until the cause of their fear has died.

I was just trying to show Crusader Girl that she was wrong about my comments…and that no matter how many advances we have made in society, there are still a large number of women who haven’t been helped and cannot be helped either by feminism or by our legal system.

William McDonnell…thank you for a voice of reason!
commented 2016-02-11 16:15:15 -0500
For what it is worth —-I am now the extremely Proud Grandpa of two supposedly identically 4 and a half pound baby girls. It has be one helluva 3 days . They are just going thru the jaundice stuff now. . One of them has a second ‘thumb’ , right about at knuckle level,. I call it her ‘Trigger’ thumb . It has been a crazy last few ,days. So to hell with it ! I don’t feel like being nice. https://youtu.be/VdphvuyaV_I
commented 2016-02-11 15:10:34 -0500
I do not understand why women would want to be in a combat role. Its too bad we deteriorate as we age. I would never have considered leaving my kids to go into the military as a young women, but now that my kids are grown I would rather go than see them go. I know that is completely unrealistic. I am sure there are women with guns defending their villages and towns all over this war torn globe. I love this story about the 68-year-old grandmother who took up arms to fight against Russian-backed separatists in Ukraine.

commented 2016-02-11 13:12:16 -0500
“How else can you explain the life and the long drawn-out murder of Donna Jones right under the nose of Ottawa’s finest, her friends…and the government agency in which she worked?”

Tragic? Yes. Very. So she married a psychopath and now all men are psychopaths, and society itself is a sociopathic patriarchy. This is really your argument? No rational human being condones these crimes, that’s why we have laws against them. Or perhaps this is just one sick disgusting individual coward…yet you obviously blame men for not recognizing she was being abused and society as a whole. The Crown was obviously disgusted:

“The Crown rejected his plea and argued he was guilty of first-degree murder. A jury took less than a day to deliberate…”

Under the nose of her friends and colleagues yet ‘Her friends used terms such as “bubbly”, “outgoing” and “an absolute sunshine”’ — if this is what her friends perceived, then perhaps this is why they didn’t suspect anything was awry? This isn’t misogyny on their part.

THE LAW IN OUR SOCIETY DOES NOT CONDONE THIS, and he was prosecuted to the full extent of the law as it provides. Despite this you will never be able to stop depraved individuals from hurting or exerting violence upon other people, because those people exist everywhere. Do you think this sicko who perpetrated this crime would have stopped had he only known how feminists think?
commented 2016-02-11 13:11:32 -0500
‘there’ not ‘their’
commented 2016-02-11 13:01:23 -0500
Judy, not helpful. I gather you have never carried a child before, and if you have it wasn’t a terrific experience for you. One of my pregnancies was complicated but none of that ever diminished the unspeakable joy I felt. Nature has this way of quickly diminishing any difficulties and enhancing the magic of the whole process of carrying and giving birth. Equating going to war and giving birth…well lets just say I haven’t heard that one before. I know which one I would prefer.

Some of the comments about feminists make my hair stand on end, until I realize they are not talking about women in general. ‘Feminist’ is now a dirty word, and the real feminists, the Suffragettes are turning in their graves. We have already been emancipated and are only slaves, or held back, or abused if we choose to allow ourselves to be (the church is the church, why expect the unlikely, change Churches. My aunt was a Reverend in the Anglican church. She couldn’t have done it in the Catholic church). My Mom was a Wren in the war, my great great aunt was a nurse on the battlefield of WW1. My son’s girlfriend is a physician, the other son’s girlfriend is a finishing carpenter (yes she gets catcalled on the site) what’s to complain about? All is well with the ‘two’ worlds. Now men are starting to get pissed off, and your ‘sisters’ are getting pissed off, because comments like yours are ruining the reputation of the gender as a whole. Stop being so angry. Their will always be victims in society, people who need defending, but women described as ‘second class citizen’ in this country is a transgression.
commented 2016-02-11 12:43:45 -0500
JUDY – what a bunch of codswaddle. You have literally created a fiction for yourself, one in which you are violently oppressed by men. “Women had to band together AND fight a war,go to prison, be beaten, and become radical just to get a foot OUT the door…” - co-opting the word “war” to replace activism is a typical ploy by shamelessly melodramatic feminists. Do you really compare what happened on the beaches of Normandy or the fields of Ypres your to keyboard protests and faux oppression? Or even the bra-burning movement? Of course you do-you’re self described social justice ‘warriors!’ You think the REAL wars were nothing but male constructs borne of only men, as you say"wars you have made", whilst blindly failing to see that those people died in the name of the very freedoms that ensured egalitarianism in Western Society? In those four words alone you have separated yourself from society as a whole; as the country does, is as the men choose to do and women are not a part of it, as if culture itself were solely a male construct. You want “the liberty to choose [your] own way of action”— how do you not have that? You want equal opportunity? You got it….but affirmative action is NOT equal opportunity; you would prefer equal results, not born of opportunity, but of social engineering.

You don’t like what’s being said in Church? Here’s an idea! Don’t go! Though by churches you should be saying mosques. My wife is Orthodox Christian and has never been limited or dictated to as a women, though she shares core beliefs that some feminists view as “oppression,” principally on the question of abortion. She embraces the traditions of the church because—well, they’re TRADITIONS. She also has a right to use her mind and disagree with the church; she’s not a blind follower nor has the church any power to enforce their whims upon her. Do you know why? Freedom, liberty and separation of church and state, access to education, and making the best of the opportunities those freedoms offer. In fact for her entire career she’s also made more money than myself and Gasp we’ve actually moved several times due to HER career. This in a field in which men make up easily 95%+ of the industry—yet somehow she’s had “agency” that you argue is absent.

I’m glad your marriage is doing well, though by stating as much you seem to be hinting those of us who disagree with you somehow are not and are living in some Mad Men-esque reality; and really that’s the narrative YOU produce. Your whole rant is nothing but casting yourself—and women in general—as perpetual victims, with the strawman argument that men somehow want to push you into monolithic gender roles, and that “older” women must live in anachronistic discontent of nuptual slavery. The fact you could believe this speaks to the heights of your delusion. I don’t know who your friends are or where you’re hanging out, but it must be a backwards little “pocket”, because all of the women in my family have careers, from teaching, to radiology, to chef, to surveyor, to geologist, to accountant, to small business owner/partner. I guarantee that you speak for none of these fine ladies, as they would NEVER adopt your silly worldview—in fact by not doing so they’ve contributed to their own success, by understanding how FREEmarkets work and the opportunity that can be had from it. Our culture is not the culture of “humanity.” Western Culture is by far the most progressive and equal for women in ALL of history.
commented 2016-02-11 12:31:44 -0500
CG…Well my husband sounds a lot like Bravo Zulu…so don’t insult him…I am glad to be sharing life with such a man…but I DO NOT protest too much…I speak for a lot of women (not myself) who know nothing about feminism…it can’t help them…women who have led lives you should be grateful to have escaped…women I know who may never have a chance at freedom from fear…fear you evidently think doesn’t exist…be thankful you live free and clear of the real world where a lot of women still live…so happy for you.

How else can you explain the life and the long drawn-out murder of Donna Jones right under the nose of Ottawa’s finest, her friends…and the government agency in which she worked?
commented 2016-02-11 12:16:26 -0500
This is a very touchy subject that hits a nerve for me. For decades there was much noise about pay, job opportunities, promotions, harassment, equality. All of this was an argument in favour of women. I still remember reading a newspaper article back in the mid 1990’s saying that if you were a 40 year old white man today you are the one who is being discriminated against.
There is no argument that women have been grossly mistreated in the past and have significant and legitimate complaints today. Men being men can sometimes be a total ass about things and that usually carries over with whoever they deal with, not just women. Some of the historic problems are alive and well today, such as sexual assault. Men can be such assholes.
The pendulum has swung back but I believe way too far and is long overdue to bring it where it needs to be. Much of my experience is directly opposed to what is being published far and wide.
Government jobs. Women and men get paid the same pay scale for the same position classification. Government policy is in favour of promoting women over men to create a balance and equity between the two genders. Merit is out the window, especially if women have some or all control in the promotion process. In actual fact, it is government policy to promote women for the same gender balance argument. Same for job opportunities. Competitions are often conducted for visible minorities which include women. If the competition is open to the general public that is just window dressing for government policy. The reality is that the staffers making the selection often are entirely comprised of women and guess who get selected for the position?
I once had a conversation with a female senior public servant (AS 08) and she knew I was competing and trying to get a public service job. I told her that the government process of open competition based on merit was bullshit. Her response was “I do not disagree with you.”
Do women have legitimate complaints today – Yes. Do men have legitimate complaints today – Yes. However, I think the pendulum has to swing back a little toward the centre and that could calm things down a little. I could have added some points about employment of men and women in the military but BZ has pretty much covered all of it. I hope I did not put you to sleep!
commented 2016-02-11 12:00:10 -0500
Bravo Zulu – you’ll be happy to know that there are many young women, like my daughter, that want nothing more than to be mothers. As a mother myself, my kids are the best that I’ve accomplished in my life. The older I get, the more I am grateful for their friendship! Growing up as boomer, I still miss the big families that we had. We learned more from each other than anything we could ever learn in school. I hope that women start having their babies, instead of aborting them for being ashamed. The gift of life, truly is a gift!
commented 2016-02-11 11:40:20 -0500
Bravo Zulu – I agree that women should not be on the front line, for all the reasons that you mentioned. Equality has destroyed the fabric of our society. God made two genders for a reason, as both compliment the other. Women bring certain strengths to the table, as do men. But what has happened is that our education system was undermined by those who wish to pump out perpetual victims. It’s the way of the Marxist, to destroy any normal world order.
commented 2016-02-11 11:33:32 -0500
Bravo Zulu – you’ve just described the men that I was fortunate enough to grow up with! And they are the men that I still admire.
commented 2016-02-11 11:32:32 -0500
Judy…obviously I know how to read since I wrote (not spoke) about your comment. Anyway, it seems you have a lot to say about nothing useful and do protest too much. I’m not sure why you think women are so oppressed in this day and age and you seem pretty angry about nothing. Glad you like real men…hope you meet one one day.