September 23, 2015

Would the TTC accept subway ads calling Mohammed a false prophet?

Rebel Staff

A Muslim information centre's ad campaign in Toronto subway stations features posters reading "Was Jesus God?" and claims the Koran and the Bible say no.

I'm not particularly bothered that these posters are on display, even in a government-run place like a subway station.

But what if someone wanted to put up posters that read "Was Mohammed a fraud?" with a link to a Christian website?

I'm sure the TTC would turn them down -- or that they'd get vandalized if they accepted them.

(Remember the Muslim TTC employee who said he wanted to kill everyone in Israel?)

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commented 2015-09-28 08:20:15 -0400
Jimmy, you can deny it as you feel you must, but Secular Humanism is a worldview. That is, it is a set of beliefs through which one interprets all of reality—something like a pair of glasses. Second, Secular Humanism is a religious worldview. The Humanists themselves agree that they adhere to a religious worldview. According to the Humanist Manifestos I & II: Humanism is “a philosophical, religious and moral point of view.”
What are the basic beliefs of Secular Humanism?:
Theologically, Secular Humanists are atheists. Philosophically, Secular Humanists are naturalists. That is, they believe that nature is all that exists – the material world is all that exists. There is no God, no spiritual dimension, no afterlife. Atheist and evolutionist Carl Sagan, one of Jimmy’s fellow travellers, said it best in the introduction to his Cosmos series: “The universe is all that is or ever was or ever will be.” Secular Humanist beliefs in the area of biology are closely tied to both their atheistic theology and their naturalist philosophy. If there is no supernatural, then life, including human life, must be the result of a purely natural phenomenon. Hence, Secular Humanists must believe in evolution. Atheism leads most Secular Humanists to adopt ethical relativism – the belief that no absolute moral code exists, and therefore man must adjust his ethical standards in each situation according to his own judgment. If God does not exist, then He cannot establish an absolute moral code. Humanist Max Hocutt says that human beings “may, and do make up their own rules… Morality is not discovered; it is made.”
Jimmy, you accuse me of making assumptions. I would suggest that all of the above describe your worldview of secular humanism. If not, tell us which of the above do not apply to your beliefs.
Secular Humanism, then, can be defined as a religious worldview based on atheism, naturalism, evolution, and ethical relativism. However, some humanists like Jimmy though, don’t want to be identified as “religious" or holding a worldview and desperately deny it, because, as Jimmy declares, he would then have to relinquish his sense of intellectual superiority, which is so evident to everyone here with all his well-reasoned posts! :-) As well, humanisrs understand that religion is (supposedly) not allowed in public education. To identify Secular Humanism as a religion would eliminate the Humanists’ main vehicle for the propagation of their faith. And it is a faith, by their own admission. The Humanist Manifestos declare: “These affirmations [in the Manifestos] are not a final credo or dogma but an expression of a living and growing faith.” I don’t expect you to be honest about this Jimmy as you set your own personal rules as to what is right or wrong (“I just live my life on my own terms”).
commented 2015-09-27 12:22:16 -0400

None of that has ANYTHING to do with religion. In fact, I have many friends that believe in God, but think religion and even The Bible is bullshit. There actually is a difference and many people are able to make the distinction. In your entire life, you have never heard someone say – I believe in God, but I am not religious?

And no, I don’t hold to a worldview or religion – but thank you for making assumptions about me and people in general. Not believing in God is no different than not believing in UFO’s or ghosts – does that qualify as a religion too. In addition, a religion implies that there are certain rules to follow or a “Bible” of sorts – I follow nothing in that sort of capacity. I just live my life on my own terms and don’t believe in God.

Religious people like to refer to atheism as a religion because they are offended by the fact that atheists believe they are more intellectual than Christians and have a more reasoned position. By saying that atheism requires just as much faith because atheists have faith that there is no God, they can characterize it as a “belief system” which makes the atheist no more intellectually superior than the Christian.

Atheism is simply not a religion. It is not a worldview or system at all. It does not combine a set of beliefs, traditions, rituals, and community structures like religions do. It is, rather, a single belief about one thing: that there aren’t any Gods. Calling atheism a religion is like saying that “not-stamp-collecting” is a hobby, or that “not-aristocracy” is a system of government.
commented 2015-09-27 07:46:37 -0400
As expected Jimmy rejects that he holds to a religion of humanism. Religion or one’s core beliefs is in essence one’s worldview, a person’s perception of reality. A worldview is like a set of glasses or filter or framework of ideas and beliefs which one uses to interpret your world and interact with it – “simply how you see the world”. There are basically two worldviews. Central to a biblical worldview is a transcendent God, while central to an atheistic worldview is nature and man. Although little Jimmy may deny it, everyone develops and has a worldview. An important foundational aspect of a worldview is where you think you came from…your origin, which determines much that follows. Everyone has a ‘worldview’, which will determine how one answers the four basic worldview questions of life, that is:
· Where have I come from – the origin of life; how the cosmos came into being?
· What’s the meaning of life?
· How should I live (morality)?
· What’s my final destiny?
Of course a lightweight humanist (atheist) like Jimmy will deny that he holds to a worldview or religion but I’ll go with his heavy weight fellow travellers like Francis Potter, a signer of the first Humanist Manifesto (1933), who tend to display more honesty. All three of Humanist Manifestos serve as the humanist’s ‘bible’, one of its fundamental tenants or dogma is a belief in evolution. Little Jimmy has an incredible amount of faith in his religion of humanism, such as a belief that nothing exploded and created everything, that life came from non-life, essentially a rock or else aliens seeded the earth with life, or even though red bllod cells and soft tissue have been found in dinosaur bones which evolutionists believe became extinct over 65 million years ago. According to one of Jimmy’s fellow travellers, Carl Sagan, “The cosmos is all that is or was or ever will be”. Surely Jimmy you don’t disagree with Sagan’s statement which is not science but a belief system or metaphysics. And they call this ‘science’! The relgion of humanism has become quite organized, with international, national, provincial and local chapters that even have charitable status. So you can deny reality if you choose Jimmy, but then I don’t expect reason from someone who sees himself as just a bag of chemicals!
commented 2015-09-27 00:56:48 -0400

No, but obviously my response which should have easily cleared things up for you – was unfortunately too hard for you to comprehend.

Why don’t you just go to sleep. When you wake up, this thread probably won’t be active any longer, as we will have all moved on to another discussion.
commented 2015-09-27 00:51:00 -0400
Poor Jimmy. Went in one ear and out the other, huh?
commented 2015-09-26 22:46:37 -0400

I am having a discussion with other people and responding to questions and comments. I am not required to post on here in a way that YOU would like me to. If you want to join in the debate, great.
commented 2015-09-26 22:43:31 -0400

Atheism is not a belief system nor is it a religion. While there are some religions that are atheistic (certain sects of Buddhism, for example), that does not mean that atheism is a religion. Two commonly used retorts to the nonsense that atheism is a religion are: 1) If atheism is a religion then bald is a hair color, and 2) If atheism is a religion then health is a disease. A new one introduced in 2012 by Bill Maher is, “If atheism is a religion, then abstinence is a sexual position.”

The only common thread that ties all atheists together is a lack of belief in gods and supernatural beings. Some of the best debates we have ever had have been with fellow atheists. This is because atheists do not have a common belief system, sacred scripture or atheist Pope. This means atheists often disagree on many issues and ideas. Atheists come in a variety of shapes, colors, beliefs, convictions, and backgrounds. We are as unique as our fingerprints.
commented 2015-09-26 22:36:08 -0400

I don’t get offended by an ad.
commented 2015-09-26 22:13:41 -0400
Canada is a secular state. Problem is ….political correctors deem it necessary to advocate for and “protect” grievance groups.

The premis of this thread is that if Christians (I happen to be Buddhist) responded in kind to this advertising campaign they would encounter two oppositions….one official from the political correctors….the other violent from Islamists who figure they can proselytize by fear and intimidation.

The thread got derailed by the perennial debate over wether or not belief in God is reasonable.

Get back on topic folks.
commented 2015-09-26 21:41:52 -0400
Jimmy, when it comes to making a point you are so so so bad. You come here to an anti Islam video and all you can do is talk about how wrong religion is. That is fine. Just say you don’t believe in religion. But instead you treat it like something you have to win when it is unwinnable. Jimmy, I am going to 2 good life tips. One is that you don’t always have to be right. The second is trying to prove you are right when you bring in religion is just going to waste your time. Get over it. For your sake and ours.
commented 2015-09-26 21:19:32 -0400
Common for atheists like Jimmy to entertain us with their tiresome rant against “religion”. Of course, not their deeply-ingrained “religion” of humanism or atheism, whereby man is the measure of all things; man is the authority, determines truth, and sets the rules – in other words, man is basically his own god! Sorry Jimmy, deny it if you wish, but Godlessness is Religion and has a proud history of brutal totalitarian communist regimes that you as one of Lenin’s “useful idiots” strives to bring about:
commented 2015-09-26 17:49:29 -0400
little jimmy … you really believe that this, the internet, is a complete social life? i cant stop laughing..
commented 2015-09-26 14:18:50 -0400
So I ask you Jimmy does this poster offend you, because it is after all religious
commented 2015-09-26 14:01:58 -0400
You really need help Jimmy.
commented 2015-09-26 12:56:44 -0400

Because God and religion has an impact on the lives of people when it comes to government, laws and many other factors. If people who believed in God just kept that shit at home and at church, there wouldn’t be a problem.
commented 2015-09-26 12:53:40 -0400

Again, thanks for your concern – you don’t need to keep repeating that and ignoring reality.

I know you read that entire thread again and I know that you even read other conservatives here questioning your sanity since you were losing your shit, but of course you are going ignore that now – because I know that don’t like how you came across in that thread.

You can’t win.
commented 2015-09-26 08:28:25 -0400
I often say that one of the arguments for the existence of God is the many atheists such as Dawkins, Harris and Dennett, who express a strong hatred of God. How can you hate someone you don’t believe in? Why the hostility? If God does not exist, shouldn’t atheists just relax and seek a good time before they become plant food? Why should it matter if people believe in God? Nothing matters if atheism is true. Aldous Huxley (1894–1963), the brother of the atheistic evolutionist Sir Julian Huxley, gave the reason for his anti-Christian stance:
“I had motive for not wanting the world to have a meaning … the philosophy of meaninglessness was essentially an instrument of liberation, sexual and political.”
commented 2015-09-26 06:27:30 -0400
Jimmy, You really need psychiatric help.
commented 2015-09-26 03:46:50 -0400
For my part, I’m ‘extremely offended’ by these posters. I’m sure all Christians are outraged by them. It’s bad enough feeling guilty for saying Merry Christmas and Happy Easter, but give muslims the slightest reason for blowing the whistle and crying about their human rights being compromised on anything they consider an affront to their religion, and we all bend over to take it in the butt. I’m f—king sick of it, and them!!!!! Maybe somebody should contact the Human Rights Commission to complain about this. Muslims do it at every opportunity. Yes, one thing they quickly learned coming to North America: find something to be offended by and sue, sue, sue!!!! It’s easy ‘free money’.
commented 2015-09-26 00:12:02 -0400

Thank you for your concern, but clearly you have dementia and need reminding of the many moments where you lose your shit and have a breakdown. Here is one such example – enjoy this entire thread again.
commented 2015-09-26 00:09:27 -0400
Lefties are Islamic collaborators. Muslims have no tolerance to abortion or gay rights or even you Jimmy
commented 2015-09-25 23:58:55 -0400
Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy, You really need psychiatric help.
commented 2015-09-25 23:04:58 -0400

I know what I say and I am not remotely angry, but knowing you – I am quite sure you confuse the use of “vile” words as meaning that I am angry. But again, this is hilarious coming from you and the number of times that you have lost your shit on The Rebel. Did you forget already or are just in denial?
commented 2015-09-25 22:08:47 -0400
Read your posts Jimmy. They show you do have anger issues. You are just in denial, but then again you are in denial of so many things, it must be second nature by now.
commented 2015-09-25 21:47:06 -0400

I am not angry at all, but this is funny coming from people like you who lose their shit over tax money going to the CBC. But Christians trying to control government and laws that are made or changed is no big deal.
commented 2015-09-25 21:41:07 -0400
“The bad news for atheists that if they want to have a logical and coherent ethical system, they will have to abandon science and like Kant postulate a divine being of some kind.”


Not necessarily, it could be argued that nihilism might be viewed as one of the solutions to the conundrum that atheists face in developing an ethical system without having to create a divine being of some type. Martin Heidegger observed that nihilism was already “the normal state of man.” Nietzsche argued that religious believers as well as scientists were guilty of misunderstanding the nature of language (claims about substance, God, gravity, in stating things as they objectively are). It was only once we realized that words were just tools then we were able to understand that morality went beyond “good” and “evil.” Nihilism, in that sense did not leave a moral void but allowed man to make sense of his existence.
commented 2015-09-25 21:40:37 -0400
Jimmy, you have some serious anger issues there. Seek help.
commented 2015-09-25 21:26:10 -0400

Practically everything we debate has something to do with God and the Christian belief – things you want to stay a certain way or be reversed – be it abortion, gay marriage, what you deem to be morality, etc.

Anything progressive or forward thinking has Christians trying to control government and doing everything else in their power to stop it – in addition to spending an endless amount of money, but yet churches don’t get taxed.
commented 2015-09-25 21:03:50 -0400
Jimmy Christians do not try to control people. Can you give an example?
commented 2015-09-25 20:23:05 -0400

None of that shit has any impact on my personal life. Christians do. Your few examples don’t even remotely come close to the fucking universe of examples where Christians try to control people’s lives, government and everything in between. After all, Canada isn’t a Muslim country.