August 05, 2015

Kathleen Wynne "should be ashamed of herself" for "jumping into the fray of the federal election"

Brian LilleyArchive

I'm a veteran political reporter who's covered campaigns across the country, but I've never seen anything like this:

Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne, a Liberal, is weighing in on the federal election, ramping up her anti-Harper rhetoric all the time.

When Harper finally reacted, she doubled down.

Her aggressive behaviour makes me wonder:

Just who is the real leader of the Liberal Party?


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commented 2015-08-08 10:34:08 -0400
Kathleen Wynne has destroyed the economy of Ontario with her Green Energy Act. Since most of the manufacturing in Canada is in Ontario she also destroyed the Canadian economy when manufacturing companies left Ontario because of expensive and unreliable electric power. Now the Liberals and the NDP are trying to blame Stephen Harper for the recession.

Strange, but true. Kathleen Wynne has given birth to two children in a previous marriage and she still thinks that she is a man! Do we really want to believe a woman whose judgement is that bad?
commented 2015-08-07 19:07:32 -0400
I sent a query to our most esteemed Premier several days ago. That being how can she have so much time on her hands to stump for her compadre Justin when her province is falling so far behind we look up at the bottom? I have not received and don’t expect a response.
commented 2015-08-07 07:55:02 -0400
Ah. We’re talking about different issues.
commented 2015-08-06 19:25:47 -0400
Terry Rudden said: “That really doesn’t impact on my point, in terms of a Premier’s “right” comment on an election.” You missed the point. The Premier can do what she wants, as long as she is not using taxpayer dollars to do it. If she wants to campaign for Justin, have at it, using her own dime!
commented 2015-08-06 19:14:02 -0400
Thanks, Rick, for you views on “the left”. That really doesn’t impact on my point, in terms of a Premier’s “right” comment on an election.
commented 2015-08-06 18:26:04 -0400
If Harper loses this election it’s because he stood on plain and simple principles. Whether you agree with him or not, I at least applaud his stance on telling premiers to go pound salt that are running their provinces into the economic toilet. That has absolutely nothing to do with the feds and I hope the hell he doesn’t promise bail out packages to these spend thrift commies
commented 2015-08-06 17:06:03 -0400
Terry Rudden said: “Given the Harper government’s clear, stated hostility to the Ontario and Alberta governments, however, I don’t find Wynn’s stance surprising.” Any leftie taking shots at Mr. Harper is not surprising! It must be ingrained in their DNA! Note the so called hostility you refer to was a statement of affairs, not the personal vendettas being played out by Ms. Wynne. The Notely Gov’t is not dissimilar. What person in their right mind, facing recession, raise taxes across the board and increase borrowing by billions of dollars? This all started when the Wynne Gov’t having decided to create their own pension plan, got upset when Ottawa decided to not burden ALL Canadian Taxpayers with the cost! This tempest in a teapot resembles in many ways, Quebec Governments and Separatist Parties threatening the R.O.C. to shakedown by blackmail, more from Canadian Taxpayers. It is the totalitarion take, take, take mentality of lefties having no concept of where the money actually comes from, nor caring that their actions and demands may cause hurt or disparity somewhere else! Now that Alberta is sliding into the abyss, what dreamworld do lefties live in that they think they can still bleed the R.O.C. for their personal ambitions? The price of oil is still dropping, and unemployment is escalating directly in the oil patch and indirectly in support industries. I was on a plane flight earlier this year talking to a person connected to these support industries. He was fully expecting to lose his job in the short term having already laid off his entire staff! His company was going under. I checked recently vis’ a vis’ a business card I was given, and the company does indeed cease to exist! Terry Rudden also said: “as to whether or not it’s strategically wise – well, that’s another question altogether. :)” Indeed. Time will be the deciding factor. I doubt it will end well. Toronto put the Wynne Gov’t back in play. I still know many in Ontario I communicate with on a fairly regular basis. What I hear from them is nothing like the drivel coming from the Ontario Gov’t!
commented 2015-08-06 14:35:28 -0400
Rick: as to whether or not it’s strategically wise – well, that’s another question altogether. :)
commented 2015-08-06 14:26:43 -0400
Rick, the current PM has an approach to federalism which puts him at odds with several of the Premiers, some of whom will no doubt be heard from during this campaign, and some of whom may, because of party affiliation or political caution, remain silent. The PM’s approach is certainly a defensible political philosophy. Given the Harper government’s clear, stated hostility to the Ontario and Alberta governments, however, I don’t find Wynn’s stance surprising.
commented 2015-08-06 13:45:57 -0400
Terry Rudden said: @ Rick: " Perhaps because it is none of her GD business!
But of course it is. She’s Premier of Canada’s largest province, and Canada’s trade, economic and social policies have an enormous impact on her jurisdiction." And launching personal attacks on the current PM improves this? No. It’s pure politicking and deflection of Ontario’s real problem(s). The current Lieberal Gov’t! Each province has far more influence on destiny than the Federal Gov’t dealing with the day to day issues as it were. To suggest otherwise is spurious!
commented 2015-08-06 13:39:50 -0400
If Ms. Wynne is going to use Ontario government websites, etc. in order to support Trudeau and the Liberal Party in the upcoming election, she is effectively “advertising” for the Liberals; and, as such, should be considered “third party” advertising. She should follow the rules for Elections Canada re “third party” advertising, especially the “spending” limitations.
I also feel that the constitutionality of a sitting premier being involved in a federal election needs to be examined! Especially if that premier is using the tax resources of the citizens of her province to finance her involvement!

Perhaps, as many have stated, this will backfire on her, and encourage voters to support other parties. I surely am hoping so!
commented 2015-08-06 13:07:29 -0400
Terry Rudden said, “Well, no. I’m not deeply evil, and I’m not any stupider than the average poster here. But the preponderance of that level of discussion is what limits the potential of this site as a medium for good exchange.”

You post comments that claim the same of the conservative voters, so …
commented 2015-08-06 11:58:49 -0400
Terry said: “She’s Premier of Canada’s largest province, and Canada’s trade, economic and social policies have an enormous impact on her jurisdiction.”

Exactly why she shouldn’t be sounding off so publicly. Wynne carries too much of a bias to be weighing in like that. Even you should be able to see that one.
commented 2015-08-06 10:45:19 -0400
Terry – Of course. I actually think our Vlad posts with at least some of his tignes in cheek.

Maybe it is easier too, and sometimes more bad grammar and lazy semantics than an actual demonization of indicidual persons, to express the repugnance for opposing views as personal attack. Obviously you are not evil but informed and thoughtful.

Different perspectives reflect different experience. Imagine how cubs of the caliphate see all of us, regardless of which party we support.
commented 2015-08-06 10:29:33 -0400
@joan: Vlad’s psychoses are a bit creepy, but at least he’s unequivocal.
More troubling is the perspective of folks who seem generally to believe, or CLAIM to believe, that “leftists” (by which they appear to mean anyone who doesn’t vote for the Conservatives, or roughly 70% of their fellow Canadians) are deeply evil or deeply stupid.
Well, no. I’m not deeply evil, and I’m not any stupider than the average poster here. But the preponderance of that level of discussion is what limits the potential of this site as a medium for good exchange.
commented 2015-08-06 10:08:56 -0400
Many voters are swing voters who read sites like this to take the pulse of the country’s political junkies. Many never post a view. Let’s stop alienating the swing voter with insults and intolerance of difference. We need them to win, remember.

Unless … maybe commenters like Volody are leftist plants intended to make readers think the right are all rabid haters of queers, feminists, FN, immigrants and the poor.
commented 2015-08-06 07:56:06 -0400
We should never be surprised at the extent to which leftist partisans will compromise truth, ethics and morality to achieve political monopoly. It’s fairly obvious that political leadership on the left in this country is either inept or degenerate or a direct threat to civil freedom. I call your attention to the remorseless partisan pimping done on this site by partisan left hacks. Same duplicitous arguments/talking points/MOs as the partisan androids they stick in front of cameras and microphones for mass consumption by the zombie voter.

None have any appeal to the non-zombie vote because none have any credibility, relevance or ethics – and none speak to what is important in keeping a healthy liberal democracy and free liberal society under equitable rule of law – all we get are vote bribes (and the resulting debt slavery), vapid jingoist bromides and vacuous promises of utopia in exchange political power monopolization by one or another corporate branded political cabal.

Canadians actually deserve no better because they have not evolved as a culture/society and out grown this factionalizing partisan power mongering our political systems dotes on.
commented 2015-08-06 07:20:56 -0400
Brian Lilley posted a piece last week about “Harper Derangement Syndrome”, which of course is an update of the old “Bush Derangement Syndrome” meme. The folks who thought that was a clever piece might want to read some of these comments about Kathleen Wynne (and past comments, including Vlad’s prayer that she get cancer and die) with that notion of “derangement” in mind.
commented 2015-08-06 07:13:40 -0400
@ Rick: " Perhaps because it is none of her GD business!
But of course it is. She’s Premier of Canada’s largest province, and Canada’s trade, economic and social policies have an enormous impact on her jurisdiction.
commented 2015-08-06 06:52:18 -0400
You know, if Trudeau finishes third and Brown wins Ontario, we could see Kathleen run for PM as leader of the federal Liberal Party. And you thought it could get no worse.

Listen, folks. Canadians, on the whole, are smart enough to recognize Kathleen’s self interest in jumping the boundaries of political decorum and campaigning in Justin’s place. I say let her rant. It can only hurt Justin’s chance of winning. And that’s a win-win all around.
commented 2015-08-06 00:47:19 -0400
Today many seniors are waiting in HOSPITALS for a room in nursing homes while we want to spend more money on SPORTS…(what’s more important than that we should have fun,eh? )…and they say conservatives are mean spirited yet the SO CALLED caring NDP and Liberals are the ones who want to waste taxpayer money on frivolous entertainment…who will care for the elderly pining away in hospital wards with minimal care while they are dying in impersonal, unhealthy conditions and their caregivers have to pay $10.00/day to park their cars in order to visit them, and this goes on for months on end! Don’t think seniors don’t realized that the health care system doesn’t care about them….I hear it all the time…how they are ignored and abandoned. This is merciless self-absorption on our part…and shame on Wynne for not doing something about this…just think about the billions the Liberals have wasted just to buy themselves seats on elections and on scandalous expenditures that didn’t work… and never forget…they will do anything for power…anything…and then bill us for the cost…while the health care system is broken and the aged are seriously neglected.
commented 2015-08-06 00:22:01 -0400
@ Edward Jobin – That is likely part of Wynne’s strategy… talk about the federal issues so that the provincial issues get ignored, or least unanswered (due to time and scheduling constraints, I’m sure). And as far as the Olympic bid goes… the time to put a bid together is (thankfully) quickly slipping away. I do not know what Wynne’s position on a bid is, but I do know that Mulcair is very much in favor of it – typical NDP spend, spend, spend stance.
commented 2015-08-05 23:10:38 -0400
I wonder at one point the rest of the provinces are going to get sick of Ontario dragging the economy down. I haven’t heard a word about our deficit in a while and more importantly our debt, Deflection has been the Wynn government’s strategy but she will probably be well looked after with the rest of her cronies while the rest of us try to figure out how to recover from a Greece like financial crisis So enjoy the Olympic vid just as Greece did with the looming financial apocalypse right around the corner.
commented 2015-08-05 22:41:11 -0400
Grip Tight Wynne is just trying to prove that her Male Hormones are still working.
commented 2015-08-05 21:18:32 -0400
You must remember our Great Leader Wynne Ding Dong is infallible. How dare you question her honesty or of her beloved apprentice Jusin Trudeau Double Ding Dong.
commented 2015-08-05 20:19:42 -0400
Asking Kathleen Wynne to be ashamed of herself is just plain silly. She doesn’t have that capacity in her DNA. I agree with Sanda Gwynne, at least to a point. I don’t know about Wynne being a megalomaniac, but she certainly is a self-absorbed narcissist. I believe she is evil… just my opinion. I hate to admit this, but whenever I see her in those stupid liberal ads, picturing her majestically jogging down a lonely back road, against the backdrop of sunrise in the country, I have a visceral response. I actually feel like throwing up. I’m not proud of that. I know I should be more considerate and understanding of people with whom I disagree, but with Wynne I don’t seem able to help myself. I’ll work on it some more.
commented 2015-08-05 18:54:05 -0400
Wynne be ashamed? She HAS no shame! She is a narcissistic megalomaniac, who is in it for nobody else but herself!
She banished her husband to the basement, in order to move her lover into the matrimonial home. (Doesn’t say much for the cojones for the husband, though) In that act itself, proves how selfish and thoughtless she is to others around her, including her own children.
The sooner we get rid of this ditch pig, the better off Ontario (and what is now looking like the rest of Canada) will be.
I truly hope, that the voters in Ontario, who voted for this lying corrupt, waste of skin, will do the exact opposite of what she is trying to accomplish.
We in Ontario-WE-owe, have learned, the hard way, that what Wynne “thinks” is going to be good for us, is the exact opposite, and ends up in a train wreck.
commented 2015-08-05 18:44:56 -0400
Liza said, "I listened to CBC’s take on Wynne and Harper, and I almost lost my lunch. "

Yes, when the CBC and the rest of the main stream media portray this as Harper causing Wynne to attack him and all Harper’s fault, how can we ever expect the Canadian people to get the truth? It makes my so furious that the main stream media are twisting the truth and outright lying.
commented 2015-08-05 18:40:33 -0400
Rae – I think she is a narcissist. Check out “the house of mirror blog” on line and you will see what these heartless souls are capable of.
commented 2015-08-05 18:37:36 -0400
Todd – no apology necessary, I thought is was very creative!